{"id":45211,"date":"2025-08-29T13:32:55","date_gmt":"2025-08-29T13:32:55","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/musicianvoice.com\/index.php\/2025\/08\/29\/tiwa-savage-gets-vulnerable-ahead-of-this-one-is-personal\/"},"modified":"2025-08-29T13:32:55","modified_gmt":"2025-08-29T13:32:55","slug":"tiwa-savage-gets-vulnerable-ahead-of-this-one-is-personal","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/musicianvoice.com\/index.php\/2025\/08\/29\/tiwa-savage-gets-vulnerable-ahead-of-this-one-is-personal\/","title":{"rendered":"Tiwa Savage Gets Vulnerable Ahead of \u2018This One is Personal\u2019"},"content":{"rendered":"<p> <br \/>\n<\/p>\n<div>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-line-height-copy  lrv-a-font-body-l   \">\n\t<a href=\"https:\/\/www.rollingstone.com\/music\/music-features\/best-afropop-2025-made-in-africa-1235351774\/\">Tiwa Savage<\/a> takes our Zoom call from <a href=\"https:\/\/www.rollingstone.com\/music\/music-features\/japanese-city-pop-returns-light-in-the-attic-compilation-pacific-breeze-822663\/\">Tokyo<\/a> at around 7 a.m. local time, her voice sweet but groggy from having just woken up moments before. She had spent the past week in Japan for her son Jamil\u2019s tenth birthday. \u201cIt\u2019s both of our first time,\u201d she tells me of the visit. \u201cHe\u2019s never had a birthday party because all his classmates are always on summer break. So, for his tenth birthday, I was like, \u2018Oh, what do you want?\u2019 He said he wanted something to do with anime. I couldn\u2019t think of anything else but coming to Japan.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-line-height-copy  lrv-a-font-body-l   \">\n\tThis is the sort of luxury one of <a href=\"https:\/\/www.rollingstone.com\/music\/music-features\/afrobeats-global-rise-1282575\/\">Afrobeats<\/a>\u2019 most influential women can afford her son after fifteen years shaping the sound of the genre, nevermind the fact that the trip lands the same week that she\u2019s releasing her fourth studio album, <em>This One is Personal. <\/em>It\u2019s a searing confessional Savage wrote out of a real-life heartbreak that she says amounted to a \u201cspiritual attack.\u201d She\u2019s brave and bold in both singing and talking about it. So, between a few professional obligations, such as this interview, her tight-knit team \u2013 essentially a family to young Jamil \u2013 made plans for them to visit places like Tokyo Disneyland and Super Nintendo World at Universal Studios Japan. \u201cThey know that I have to be a mom first,\u201d she says.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-line-height-copy  lrv-a-font-body-l   \">\n\t<em>This One is Personal<\/em> is a testament to Tiwa\u2019s deserved longevity, and now that the singer-songwriter is 45 years old. It captures her ability to evolve authentically in a culture both obsessed with and vile towards women. With her signature blend of <a href=\"https:\/\/www.rollingstone.com\/t\/afrobeats\/\" id=\"auto-tag_afrobeats\" data-tag=\"afrobeats\">Afrobeats<\/a> and R&amp;B, Savage has written for Monica, sung backup for Mary J. Blige, and lent her vocals to Whitney Houston\u2019s final album, credentials that shine across the throwback soul flavor of her latest work<em> \u2013 <\/em>she\u2019s an icon that charted a path for women in Afropop. Nigerian singer <a href=\"https:\/\/www.rollingstone.com\/music\/music-features\/arya-star-interview-1211965\/\">Ayra Starr<\/a> is of her lineage, as the younger act has taken on the mantle of leading lady at Savage\u2019s former label, Mavin, which is also home to Afrobeats superstar <a href=\"https:\/\/www.rollingstone.com\/music\/music-features\/rema-heis-calm-down-afrobeats-nigeria-1235293402\/\">Rema<\/a>. <a href=\"https:\/\/www.rollingstone.com\/music\/music-album-reviews\/tems-born-in-the-wild-review-1235034474\/\">Tems<\/a>, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.rollingstone.com\/music\/music-features\/made-in-africa-tyla-ayra-star-tyla-amaarae-1235397233\/\">Tyla, and Amaarae<\/a> are also, in many ways, of her progeny, too.\u00a0<\/p>\n<section class=\"brands-most-popular \/\/ editors-pick-module lrv-u-margin-tb-2 lrv-u-border-a-2 u-box-shadow-5-5 lrv-u-padding-lr-1 a-span1 u-padding-b-1@tablet u-overflow-hidden\">\n<h2 id=\"section-heading\" class=\"c-heading larva  lrv-u-text-align-center u-border-color-black a-font-theme-primary-xxs lrv-u-color-black lrv-u-text-transform-uppercase u-letter-spacing-0063 lrv-u-padding-t-050 u-padding-b-0375@tablet lrv-u-padding-b-050@mobile-max lrv-u-border-b-2\">\n<p>\t\tEditor\u2019s picks<\/p>\n<\/h2>\n<\/section>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-line-height-copy  lrv-a-font-body-l   \">\n\tSavage has the cuts and bruises to show for this, having been maligned for her sensuality, risqu\u00e9 fashion (which, at the time of her breakthrough, she says, was clothing like\u2026denim shorts), her divorce from Jamil\u2019s father, and a <a href=\"https:\/\/www.revolt.tv\/article\/2021-10-08\/109913\/tiwa-savage-reveals-shes-being-blackmailed-over-sex-tape\" rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\">leaked<\/a> sex tape. Some challenges she\u2019s faced adjacent to Nigeria\u2019s music industry have been more personal. In January 2024, Savage filed a <a href=\"https:\/\/www.cnn.com\/2024\/01\/12\/entertainment\/davido-tiwa-savage-polce-investigation-intl-scli\" rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\">police complaint<\/a> in the Lagos State city of Ikeja against fellow Afrobeats veteran and former friend <a href=\"https:\/\/www.rollingstone.com\/music\/music-album-reviews\/davido-5ive-review-1235320517\/\">Davido<\/a>, alleging he had threatened her. \u201cHe has also told our mutual connections to warn me to \u2018be careful in Lagos because he was going to f\u2013k me up,\u2019\u201d she wrote, saying that his alleged harassment began because she shared a photo of herself and Sophia Momodu, the mother of his first child, on Instagram. Unbeknownst to her, Savage tells me, the two were engaged in a conflict over custody, which, in an interview this spring, Davido explained he wanted Savage\u2019s support for while visiting the popular radio show <a href=\"https:\/\/www.tiktok.com\/@breakfastclubam\/video\/7490922294265515294\" rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\">the Breakfast Club<\/a> in April.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-line-height-copy  lrv-a-font-body-l   \">\n\t\u201cOh, wow. I vowed never to speak about this,\u201d Savage says when I ask her what she made of Davido\u2019s recent remarks on the issue, with him telling the Breakfast Club that, \u201cThere\u2019s no bad blood.\u201d He added that they hadn\u2019t seen each other of late, but that Savage had reached out. \u201cI love her,\u201d he said. \u201cI love her child. I saw him grow up. She\u2019s an amazing person. She changed the game for females. She\u2019ll always have that respect. That\u2019s my sister. I would never let nothing happen to her.\u201d Savage is still shaken. \u201cI didn\u2019t feel threatened. I<em> was<\/em> threatened,\u201d she says. \u201cThat was a very hurtful thing for me because yeah, I was being dragged into something that really wasn\u2019t none of my business, and the only thing I was doing was just being respectful to the mother of my son\u2019s friend. It wasn\u2019t taking sides or anything because I didn\u2019t even know there was anything to take sides on.\u201d She says there hasn\u2019t been a reconciliation.<\/p>\n<section class=\"brands-most-popular \/\/ recirculation-modules lrv-u-margin-tb-2 lrv-u-border-a-2 u-box-shadow-5-5 lrv-u-padding-lr-1 a-span1 u-padding-b-1@tablet u-overflow-hidden\">\n<h2 id=\"section-heading\" class=\"c-heading larva  lrv-u-text-align-center u-border-color-black a-font-theme-primary-xxs lrv-u-color-black lrv-u-text-transform-uppercase u-letter-spacing-0063 lrv-u-padding-t-050 u-padding-b-0375@tablet lrv-u-padding-b-050@mobile-max lrv-u-border-b-2\">\n<p>\t\tRelated Content<\/p>\n<\/h2>\n<\/section>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-line-height-copy  lrv-a-font-body-l   \">\n\t<em>This One is Personal<\/em> is defined by the kind of unwavering earnestness that she approaches such sensitive subjects with, and the tenacity, too. Here, Tiwa goes deeper on the making of the album, that rift with Davido, her controversial choice to perform at King Charles\u2019 <a href=\"https:\/\/www.aljazeera.com\/news\/2023\/5\/5\/joy-rebuke-for-nigerias-tiwa-savage-over-charles-coronation\" rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\">coronation<\/a>, and what she wants for women.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-line-height-copy  lrv-a-font-body-l   \">\n\t<strong>On <\/strong><strong><em>This One is Personal<\/em><\/strong><strong>, it sounds like you\u2019re reflecting not just on one romance or love, but love over the course of a lifetime.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-line-height-copy  lrv-a-font-body-l   \">\n\tThe album really focuses on what I really went through in the last two years. It was a very, very dark period for me. I don\u2019t think I\u2019ve ever been vocal about stuff like that. It was really hard for me to get over this particular period. There\u2019s a song there called \u201cYou\u2019re Not The First (You\u2019re Just The Worst)\u201d meaning, of course, I\u2019ve gone through disappointment and heartbreaks before, but this particular one was really, really hard for me. And even the subsequent events that happened after were interesting too. I have a song, \u201cTwisted,\u201d where [I\u2019m] talking about being toxic. That was after the breakdown of this particular relationship that I\u2019m talking about. I ended up being the toxic one and I was looking at myself like, \u201cYo, why are you acting like this? This isn\u2019t you.\u201d\u00a0<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-line-height-copy  lrv-a-font-body-l   \">\n\t<strong>What made that relationship so devastating and so impactful?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-line-height-copy  lrv-a-font-body-l   \">\n\tTo be honest, I still don\u2019t know. For some reason, this one, it was just different. It felt more like such a strong spiritual attack. I know it\u2019s deep to say that. It really felt like this relationship was intentional to destroy something in me. It didn\u2019t feel just like, \u201cOh, it was just a heartbreak.\u201d It felt like I was heading towards something and then this thing came to really distract me or break me down. It wasn\u2019t even just about the relationship. It felt like a lot of things around me were just crumbling based on it. I withdrew from a lot of my childhood friends, from a lot of my team.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-line-height-copy  lrv-a-font-body-l   \">\n\tI would do things that I wouldn\u2019t normally do. I wouldn\u2019t let people know if I was traveling somewhere. There\u2019s a song there featuring Skepta called \u201cOn The Low,\u201d because I wanted to protect it so much. I didn\u2019t want people to find out who I was seeing, and at this time I really, really wanted it to work. So literally, every single song was about it.<\/p>\n<figure class=\"wp-block-embed is-type-video is-provider-youtube wp-block-embed-youtube\">\n<div class=\"wp-block-embed__wrapper\">\n<p><iframe loading=\"lazy\" title=\"Tiwa Savage, Skepta - On The Low (Official Visualizer)\" width=\"1200\" height=\"675\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/kluJOo63Nzs?feature=oembed\" frameborder=\"0\" allow=\"accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share\" referrerpolicy=\"strict-origin-when-cross-origin\" allowfullscreen><\/iframe><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/figure>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-line-height-copy  lrv-a-font-body-l   \">\n\t<strong>What did making the album clarify for you?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-line-height-copy  lrv-a-font-body-l   \">\n\tOh, there was so much coming out of it. I think that\u2019s why I started pouring so much into my son, into this project. It became more than music to me, it became more than [creating] an R&amp;B-type album. It felt so necessary for me to do it for other people that might be going through stuff. Being an Afrobeat [<em>Savage says it without the \u201cS\u201d customary to the modern genre<\/em>] artist, I don\u2019t think we have any artist that really touched on something this deep in terms of heartbreak. Afrobeat is very fun. Making this album revealed to me how there was a gap. I\u2019m not saying there isn\u2019t music in Afrobeat that does this, but I didn\u2019t think there was enough of it.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-line-height-copy  lrv-a-font-body-l   \">\n\t<strong>It\u2019s so interesting to hear about \u201cOn The Low\u201d in this context because I\u2019ve listened to that song like, \u201cOh, this is so cute.\u201d To hear that it was instead the beginning of something heartbreaking is a bit jarring because it does still have a bit of that levity and sensuality that a lot of Afrobeats has.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-line-height-copy  lrv-a-font-body-l   \">\n\tThis is why these interviews are important. I\u2019ll give you an example, \u201cBrown Sugar,\u201d D\u2019Angelo; I found out that it wasn\u2019t about love, it was about marijuana. But you won\u2019t think of that. You just think it\u2019s a sexy song about a girl or whatever, then you go back and it just makes you even love it even more and think of how genius that song is. And yeah, [\u201cOn the Low\u201d], some people would listen or read this article and be like, \u201cOh, wow. It was a lot deeper than what we thought,\u201d but it\u2019s still a song that you can enjoy and groove to.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-line-height-copy  lrv-a-font-body-l   \">\n\t<strong>Where have you actually landed on love? The first track, \u201cI\u2019m Done,\u201d is a big proclamation, but throughout that album, you seem to be reconsidering it.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-line-height-copy  lrv-a-font-body-l   \">\n\t<strong>\u201c<\/strong>Change,\u201d which is the last record, featuring James Fauntleroy, says, \u201cLet me change to love you.\u201d And people might think I\u2019m talking about that first person in the first record, \u201cI\u2019m Done,\u201d but I\u2019m talking about God. I\u2019m like, \u201cYou\u2019re the only person that got me through this. I know you\u2019ve been speaking to me over the years.\u201d I\u2019m finally like, \u201cYou know what? I get it, God. Let me change.\u201d That concludes the whole story of the project; God is the ultimate love and that\u2019s where I landed, to change back to what he intended me to be.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-line-height-copy  lrv-a-font-body-l   \">\n\t<strong>Are there other records of yours that you intended to have a double meaning?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-line-height-copy  lrv-a-font-body-l   \">\n\tThere\u2019s a record called \u201c<a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=QkxdzK0mxlI\" rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\">Hold Me Down<\/a> ,\u201d a record on my<em> Sugarcane <\/em>EP. That was the same EP that had \u201c<a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=U4fqMMKo9ns\" rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\">Ma Lo<\/a>.\u201d That record was about weed actually. My core fans would really know that record, but they might not know that its about weed. I literally was inspired by D\u2019Angelo. When I heard what \u201cBrown Sugar\u201d was about, I went into the studio and I wrote about my first experience with weed. When you hear the song, you think it\u2019s me talking about my first experience with a certain guy, but it\u2019s really about my first experience with trying it and not knowing that you have to pass it around.<\/p>\n<figure class=\"wp-block-embed is-type-video is-provider-youtube wp-block-embed-youtube\">\n<div class=\"wp-block-embed__wrapper\">\n<p><iframe loading=\"lazy\" title=\"Tiwa Savage - You4Me (Official Video)\" width=\"1200\" height=\"900\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/Ec7T6Buwh3g?feature=oembed\" frameborder=\"0\" allow=\"accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share\" referrerpolicy=\"strict-origin-when-cross-origin\" allowfullscreen><\/iframe><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/figure>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-line-height-copy  lrv-a-font-body-l   \">\n\t<strong>I\u2019m 31 and from an African family, so I\u2019m getting the marriage and babies questions. But I think that often, when I look at women like you or like Tracee Ellis Ross, I don\u2019t feel this pressure to be coupled or start a family in a limited timeframe. I\u2019m wondering if getting older affected how you felt about the relationship that ultimately led to this album.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-line-height-copy  lrv-a-font-body-l   \">\n\tI still love love after all is said and done, but I\u2019m at the point where I\u2019m not going to sacrifice or jeopardize my peace of mind, because I almost lost my mind. For other people, I still love love. I still pray for it. I still want people to experience childbirth. I really want to be an advocate for women\u2019s egg freezing. I think people don\u2019t talk about it enough, and women don\u2019t realize the importance of it. It should be affordable for women to freeze their eggs if they want because as we get older, our egg reserves reduce. You know how when you\u2019re 18 or 19, you have to start doing your pap smear? I think they should make that important for women too.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-line-height-copy  lrv-a-font-body-l   \">\n\t<strong>With your advocacy for egg freezing, where are you based these days?\u00a0<\/strong><\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-line-height-copy  lrv-a-font-body-l   \">\n\tRight now, I am based between London and Nigeria. I have a place in both places.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-line-height-copy  lrv-a-font-body-l   \">\n\t<strong>In the US, we\u2019re seeing this bend towards <\/strong><a href=\"https:\/\/www.rollingstone.com\/politics\/politics-features\/trump-authoritarian-no-kings-playbook-1235388347\/\"><strong>authoritarianism<\/strong><\/a><strong>, and so much of that being around <\/strong><a href=\"https:\/\/www.rollingstone.com\/politics\/politics-features\/maga-plan-attack-birth-control-surveil-women-ban-abortion-pill-1234934807\/\"><strong>women\u2019s autonomy<\/strong><\/a><strong>. I think the idea of us being introduced to the idea of freezing our eggs as young women and being given affordable options to do so would be lovely, but it\u2019s like there\u2019s this conservative movement that wants us to be chained to men and not have the independence the <\/strong><a href=\"https:\/\/www.teenvogue.com\/story\/what-is-the-save-act-trump-voting-rights\" rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\"><strong>vote<\/strong><\/a><strong> and right to control our bodies afforded us. I wonder if you feel cognizant of how much resistance there\u2019d be to an idea like accessible egg freezing?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-line-height-copy  lrv-a-font-body-l   \">\n\tWell, I can only really speak from my environment. Nigeria is still very geared towards protecting men. I feel like women are still marginalized a lot in my culture. A conversation like this is very hard to have, even with other women. A few women that I know are still hiding the fact that they had to use a surrogate to have a baby. The women I\u2019m talking about aren\u2019t doing it because they\u2019re just trying to keep their figure. They physically couldn\u2019t carry and they still feel shame. They have to hide it because society is going to judge them, crucify them, or tell them, \u201cYou\u2019re playing God and this isn\u2019t right.\u201d\u00a0<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-line-height-copy  lrv-a-font-body-l   \">\n\tA man in my culture can still marry multiple women, and it\u2019s not that frowned upon, but a woman decides to be a mother and they\u2019re like, \u201cHow can you do this bringing a child up in a single parent home?\u201d I\u2019m thinking, \u201cWell, we don\u2019t decide that.\u201d Most women, I think, would love to be in a marriage, be in love, have their children and live happily ever after, but sometimes things happen. Sometimes women are widowed or they have to go through a divorce, but they still have to pick up the pieces. It really breaks my heart to see that women in the part of the world where I\u2019m from are not really supported like that. Conversations like egg freezing and surrogacy, it\u2019s even harder to have because we haven\u2019t even gotten the basics yet.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-line-height-copy  lrv-a-font-body-l   \">\n\t<strong>I\u2019m sure you are asked about women and Afrobeats and Afropop all the time, but I\u2019m very curious if there are experiences that you see newer women in music have that you wish that you could have experienced earlier in your career?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-line-height-copy  lrv-a-font-body-l   \">\n\tOh yeah, of course. Just being free with their body, being sensual or sexual. I had my music videos being banned because I wore denim shorts or a body suit that was too clingy. It\u2019s not like I was wearing thongs or anything, but they wouldn\u2019t play it on TV or even on radio. But then you had my male colleagues who would have videos with girls in bikinis, and nothing is being said. They had very sexually explicit videos. It was really hard at that time because I just couldn\u2019t understand me having tattoos [being] such an issue, and male artists have so much, and it\u2019s so cool.. Or me ending up being a single mom, where it wasn\u2019t by choice. I actually did it the right way. I had my child in the covenant of a marriage, but we have male artists that have multiple baby moms.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-line-height-copy  lrv-a-font-body-l   \">\n\tIt never stops by the way. The challenge never stops. People say to me, \u201cHow do you feel now that there are more female artists coming up?\u201d I love it. I don\u2019t think it\u2019s enough. [<em>To make her point, Savage tasks me to publish the number of women who make the Nigerian charts on digital streaming platforms. On the Spotify chart of the 50 top songs in Nigeria dated August 22, where many songs feature multiple collaborators, only four women total appeared. On Apple Music\u2019s Top 100: Nigeria chart dated August 27, only two women placed.<\/em>]\u00a0\u00a0<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-line-height-copy  lrv-a-font-body-l   \">\n\t<strong>I think the fact that you were asked to perform at King Charles\u2019 coronation, on one hand, signals how far Afrobeats has come \u2013 especially that, of all people in the genre, a woman is chosen to represent it there. But on the other hand, there was controversy about that choice as a Nigerian woman choosing to celebrate this colonial power. How have you reconciled that now?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-line-height-copy  lrv-a-font-body-l   \">\n\tI think for me, it was celebrating. I didn\u2019t want a situation where we weren\u2019t represented. I wasn\u2019t thinking of it as me being a female. I tried to be as humble as possible, but I\u2019m like, \u201cHey, which Afrobeat artist are you really going to call to handle singing with an orchestra?\u201d Do you know what I\u2019m saying? I\u2019m pretty much one of the only few people that can probably pull that off, not to toot my own horn, but toot-toot. I was like, \u201cI\u2019m going to get on this stage and I\u2019m going to kill it, and I\u2019m going to show them that Afrobeat or African artists can do this.\u201d<\/p>\n<figure class=\"wp-block-embed is-type-video is-provider-youtube wp-block-embed-youtube\">\n<div class=\"wp-block-embed__wrapper\">\n<p><iframe loading=\"lazy\" title=\"WATCH TIWA SAVAGE FULL LIVE PERFORMANCE AT THE CORONATION CONCERT IN HONOR OF KING CHARLES III\" width=\"1200\" height=\"675\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/JOe0vsU_vzw?feature=oembed\" frameborder=\"0\" allow=\"accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share\" referrerpolicy=\"strict-origin-when-cross-origin\" allowfullscreen><\/iframe><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/figure>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-line-height-copy  lrv-a-font-body-l   \">\n\t<strong>I\u2019m curious about your perspective on the other side of that, where it\u2019s like, do we actually need to be celebrating the legacy of this institution when it has caused so much harm in the place that we\u2019re from? How have you thought about that?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-line-height-copy  lrv-a-font-body-l   \">\n\tYeah, in hindsight. Because I moved to the U.K. when I was really young, that was a very big part of me growing up as well. When I mentioned it to my mom, I just saw how happy she was that I would be called to do that. That was all I could think about, representing us and the joy on my family\u2019s face as immigrants in the U.K. having a voice on that stage. I didn\u2019t really think too much about the history. I just looked forward.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-line-height-copy  lrv-a-font-body-l   \">\n\t<strong>Do you have a different perspective on it now?\u00a0<\/strong><\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-line-height-copy  lrv-a-font-body-l   \">\n\tI think sometimes when things happen, the only way to move forward is to reconcile, and that\u2019s not possible if you don\u2019t come to the table to do that. I still strongly believe that. I don\u2019t want to go too deep into it, because I know this is about music, but I do want to touch on it in terms of what was ours or what is ours.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-line-height-copy  lrv-a-font-body-l   \">\n\tTouching on the <a href=\"https:\/\/www.rollingstone.com\/music\/music-features\/detty-december-nigeria-ghana-south-africa-kenya-festive-season-1235202842\/\">Year of the Return<\/a> in Ghana, a lot of Africans were like, \u201cNo, foreigners shouldn\u2019t be allowed to come back.\u201d And I\u2019m like, \u201cWell, how are we going to bridge that gap if we don\u2019t come together?\u201d It\u2019s really important for us to reunite with our African-American brothers and sisters and welcome them and let them know that they are Africans. A lot of non-African-Americans that came wanted to learn about what their ancestors had done \u2013 if we shut them out, how would they understand the gravity of what their people did to our people?<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-line-height-copy  lrv-a-font-body-l   \">\n\t<strong>What do you think is the state of African pop music?\u00a0<\/strong><\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-line-height-copy  lrv-a-font-body-l   \">\n\tI don\u2019t think it\u2019s just specific to Afropop or Afrobeat; I think music is getting to that stage where there won\u2019t really be much genres. I think there\u2019s so much fusion now. Even in R&amp;B, it\u2019s not traditional R&amp;B like when I was listening to R&amp;B, when I was listening to Joe, SWV, and Mary J. Blige. Now, R&amp;B is kind of like a fusion. I think a lot of African artists don\u2019t want to feel boxed in.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-line-height-copy  lrv-a-font-body-l   \">\n\t<strong>There was a period where Afrobeats artists were defining their own genres. Like CKay called his sound \u201cEmo-Afrobeats.\u201d Burna Boy called his \u201cAfrofusion.\u201d Fireboy DML called his \u201cAfro-Life.\u201d But then on the other hand, you have someone like Rema who is like, \u201cNo, this word <\/strong><a href=\"https:\/\/www.rollingstone.com\/music\/music-features\/rema-interview-new-video-benin-boys-1235043644\/\"><strong>Afrobeats is important<\/strong><\/a><strong>, and there are these actual sonic characteristics and traits of this genre that are worth preserving and celebrating.\u201d I\u2019m curious about what you think about the balance of those two things.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-line-height-copy  lrv-a-font-body-l   \">\n\tI want to respect \u201cEmo-Afrobeats,\u201d \u201cAfro-Life,\u201d or whatever they want to call it. What people don\u2019t understand is that the music that comes out of Africa is so vast. It\u2019s very difficult to just label it Afrobeat or Afropop, because you go to Tanzania and it\u2019s a different sound. Even within Nigeria, you have Flavor, you have Phyno, you have Olamide, you have Tems. Just within that one country, you have so many different types of sounds. You have Fela, you have King Sunny Ad\u00e9, you have highlife, you have j\u00f9j\u00fa music. It\u2019s even hard for us to put a label on it because we grew up listening to so much. We also grew up listening to hip-hop. We grew up listening to pop. We grew up listening to Sade Adu, Coldplay. So musically, it\u2019s hard for us to label it one thing. I think that\u2019s why you\u2019re getting so many sub-genres of this thing.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-line-height-copy  lrv-a-font-body-l   \">\n\t<strong>What is your son\u2019s experience as an African young man? How is it different from how you grew up? What excites you about it? I mean, you are in Japan.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-line-height-copy  lrv-a-font-body-l   \">\n\tI\u2019m very intentional with what I want him to experience. I always joke about this, that African men, whenever they travel somewhere, they never want to try anything. They just want to find an African restaurant. Or once he finds something he likes, like chicken wings, he is never going to not eat chicken wings. Even if he goes to an Italian restaurant, he\u2019s going to be like, \u201cDo you guys have chicken wings?\u201d So I wanted my son to experience the world, coming to places like Japan, we\u2019ve traveled to Marrakesh, Morocco, just even simple things like opening up his taste palate. While he really does appreciate African food \u2013 he loves jollof rice and stuff like that \u2013 he also loves sushi. He\u2019s tried Turkish food. He\u2019s tried so many different things. He\u2019s also learned to experience and appreciate different cultures and not just be so closed-minded, like, \u201cThis is how we do it in Africa.\u201d As an African man, I want him to uphold his values. He\u2019s very proud. Most Africans are very proud of being African. Coming out to Tokyo, him learning just how polite they are \u2013 everything is \u201cArigato\u201d and they\u2019re bowing their heads \u2013 he\u2019s asking questions and he\u2019s loving little things like that.\u00a0 I want him to be very world-traveled and appreciate life and in turn, appreciate women.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-line-height-copy  lrv-a-font-body-l   \">\n\t<strong>Because I\u2019m such a big fan of both you and Davido, and because this issue, as far as he has described it, had to do with your relationship with each other\u2019s families, I am curious: There was this police complaint filed in 2024 where you alleged that he threatened you. Davido has now done an interview saying he would never harm you and loves your family. Where are you now in that situation?\u00a0<\/strong><\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-line-height-copy  lrv-a-font-body-l   \">\n\tOh, wow. I vowed never to speak about this.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-line-height-copy  lrv-a-font-body-l   \">\n\t<strong>It\u2019s up to you. Whatever you want to say is totally fine.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-line-height-copy  lrv-a-font-body-l   \">\n\tI think it\u2019s unfortunate that it got to where it did, but I want to also reiterate to people that my son is in the same school as his first daughter. They\u2019re actually in the same class. They went to the same nursery together. They\u2019re now in the same school together. So, naturally, I\u2019m going to run into his child\u2019s mother at school recitals and stuff. I have to be very, very cordial, especially because our kids were friends. It was very unfortunate that I was dragged into something or made to feel like I picked a side when I didn\u2019t even know anything that was happening personally. It\u2019s like I go to school to pick up my son, and I see Imade\u2019s [Davido\u2019s daughter] mom, am I not going to say, \u201cHey\u201d? I say hey to all the other moms, and we have conversations just as moms: \u201cOh, what are you guys doing for the summer? Hey, can my kid and your kid have a play date? It\u2019s such-and-such\u2019s birthday coming up.\u201d\u00a0<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-line-height-copy  lrv-a-font-body-l   \">\n\tIt\u2019s all well and good to say, \u201cOh, we\u2019re [siblings],\u201d but I was really heartbroken because I was dragged into something or made to believe that I had taken sides when I hadn\u2019t. All I was doing was being respectful to the mother of my son\u2019s friend.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-line-height-copy  lrv-a-font-body-l   \">\n\t<strong>His comment on it was that the fallout came from a custody dispute with the mother.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-line-height-copy  lrv-a-font-body-l   \">\n\tHow is that my business? I\u2019m just finding out, like the rest of the world is finding out that that was even an issue.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-line-height-copy  lrv-a-font-body-l   \">\n\t<strong>So you felt threatened before you even knew that that was the context?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-line-height-copy  lrv-a-font-body-l   \">\n\tI didn\u2019t feel threatened. I was threatened. And I\u2019m like, \u201cWait, what\u2019s going on? Where\u2019s all this coming from?\u201d And then I\u2019m finding out that there\u2019s been an issue. To be fair, she didn\u2019t let me know, and she shouldn\u2019t either because it\u2019s really none of my business. I didn\u2019t know the extent of what was happening legally, whatever. I wasn\u2019t privy to that. And even if I still knew, I still wouldn\u2019t stop being respectful to her. Does that make sense?<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-line-height-copy  lrv-a-font-body-l   \">\n\t<strong>No, it does. Thank you for being so forthright and so clear.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-line-height-copy  lrv-a-font-body-l   \">\n\tThe kids should never have to suffer for what the parents are going through.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-line-height-copy  lrv-a-font-body-l   \">\n\t<strong>Have you seen or heard his full commentary on the Breakfast Club about the situation?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-line-height-copy  lrv-a-font-body-l   \">\n\tI am so hurt that I don\u2019t even pay attention.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-line-height-copy  lrv-a-font-body-l   \">\n\t<strong>So to you, there hasn\u2019t really been a reconciliation?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-line-height-copy  lrv-a-font-body-l   \">\n\tNo.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-line-height-copy  lrv-a-font-body-l   \">\n\t<strong>I can tell that it\u2019s heavy.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-line-height-copy  lrv-a-font-body-l   \">\n\tYeah. Because anything to do with my child , I just try and protect it. That put a strain on my son\u2019s relationship with their daughter, and that was very sad for me to see that unfold because the kids should never be caught in the crossfire.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-line-height-copy  lrv-a-font-body-l   \">\n\t<strong>I meant to ask you earlier \u2013 what was your son\u2019s reaction when he found out that you were going to Japan? How did that unfold?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-line-height-copy  lrv-a-font-body-l   \">\n\tI was trying to make it a surprise, but he heard conversations with me trying to get my visa, and he\u2019s like, \u201cAre you going to Japan?\u201d And I\u2019m like, \u201cI might be.\u201d He\u2019s like \u201cNo way. Oh my God, I want to go to Japan. I really want to go. I\u2019m going to be on summer vacation. I really want to go!\u201d So I just said, you know what? Let me just tell you: \u201cYes, you\u2019re going to come with me,\u201d because it was getting annoying [<em>laughs<\/em>]. Now, it switches to, \u201cWhen are we going? How many more weeks? How many more days? How many more hours? Can we get on the plane now? Can we go tomorrow?\u201d And now, we\u2019re leaving [Tokyo] today and he\u2019s like, \u201cI don\u2019t want to go.\u201d [I\u2019m like], \u201cNo, you\u2019re leaving, you\u2019re going back to school. I have an album to release.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-line-height-copy  lrv-a-font-body-l   \">\n\t<strong>I think that\u2019s a perfect point for me to let you go and enjoy the rest of your morning. Is there anything that we didn\u2019t talk about that you would like to?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-line-height-copy  lrv-a-font-body-l   \">\n\tJust the next phase of my life outside of music.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-line-height-copy  lrv-a-font-body-l   \">\n\t<strong>I saw that you\u2019re opening a <\/strong><a href=\"https:\/\/x.com\/TiwaSavage\/status\/1960447226280394792\" rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\"><strong>music school<\/strong><\/a><strong>?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-line-height-copy  lrv-a-font-body-l   \">\n\tI\u2019m working on it. I want to start with scholarships to Berklee College of Music. I went [there], so I want to give Nigerian musicians the opportunity to have that or experience that. I\u2019m working very closely with Berklee.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-line-height-copy  lrv-a-font-body-l   \">\n\tI\u2019m really obsessed with skincare, even more so than makeup. I love skincare, and I love hair care as well, taking care of our natural hair. And I\u2019ve started this journey of going back to my short hair, like my pixie cut, and realizing how I have to maintain a healthy hairstyle, even though people think that having short hair is so easy to manage, and it really isn\u2019t. All things to make the Black woman feel beautiful naturally, even before we apply the wigs or the makeup, is what I really want to go into. I call it my mogul era. I really want to step into that. I love what Rihanna\u2019s doing. I want to represent African women as well, and show people that African women can be millionaires and billionaires.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-line-height-copy  lrv-a-font-body-l   \">\n\t<strong>Have you gotten a chance to have a meeting of the minds with Rihanna?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-line-height-copy  lrv-a-font-body-l   \">\n\tNo, we\u2019ve never met. Never interacted socially, not even social media. Nothing.\u00a0<\/p>\n<section class=\"brands-most-popular \/\/ recirculation-modules trending-in-article lrv-u-margin-tb-2 lrv-u-border-a-2 u-box-shadow-5-5 lrv-u-padding-lr-1 a-span1 u-padding-b-1@tablet u-overflow-hidden\">\n<h2 id=\"section-heading\" class=\"c-heading larva  lrv-u-text-align-center u-border-color-black a-font-theme-primary-xxs lrv-u-color-black lrv-u-text-transform-uppercase u-letter-spacing-0063 lrv-u-padding-t-050 u-padding-b-0375@tablet lrv-u-padding-b-050@mobile-max lrv-u-border-b-2\">\n<p>\t\tTrending Stories<\/p>\n<\/h2>\n<\/section>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-line-height-copy  lrv-a-font-body-l   \">\n\t<strong>Well, we\u2019ll love to see it when you guys have your products on shelves next to each other.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-line-height-copy  lrv-a-font-body-l   \">\n\tRight. Amen.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<p><script async src=\"\/\/www.tiktok.com\/embed.js\"><\/script><br \/>\n<br \/><br \/>\n<br \/><a href=\"https:\/\/www.rollingstone.com\/music\/music-features\/tiwa-savage-interview-this-one-is-personal-afrobeats-davido-1235417915\/\">Source link <\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Tiwa Savage takes our Zoom call from Tokyo at around 7 a.m. local time, her voice sweet but groggy from having just woken up&#8230;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":5,"featured_media":45212,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[36],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-45211","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-pop","article","has-excerpt","has-avatar","has-author","has-date","has-comment-count","has-category-meta","has-read-more","thumbnail-"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/musicianvoice.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/45211","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/musicianvoice.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/musicianvoice.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/musicianvoice.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/5"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/musicianvoice.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=45211"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/musicianvoice.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/45211\/revisions"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/musicianvoice.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/45212"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/musicianvoice.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=45211"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/musicianvoice.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=45211"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/musicianvoice.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=45211"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}