{"id":47603,"date":"2025-09-26T13:36:34","date_gmt":"2025-09-26T13:36:34","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/musicianvoice.com\/index.php\/2025\/09\/26\/conor-oberst-talks-new-bright-eyes-ep-trans-and-immigrant-rights\/"},"modified":"2025-09-26T13:36:34","modified_gmt":"2025-09-26T13:36:34","slug":"conor-oberst-talks-new-bright-eyes-ep-trans-and-immigrant-rights","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/musicianvoice.com\/index.php\/2025\/09\/26\/conor-oberst-talks-new-bright-eyes-ep-trans-and-immigrant-rights\/","title":{"rendered":"Conor Oberst Talks New Bright Eyes EP, Trans and Immigrant Rights"},"content":{"rendered":"<p> <br \/>\n<\/p>\n<div>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-line-height-copy  lrv-a-font-body-l   \">\n\t<a href=\"https:\/\/www.rollingstone.com\/t\/conor-oberst\/\" id=\"auto-tag_conor-oberst\" data-tag=\"conor-oberst\">Conor Oberst<\/a> has had quite the year. Last September, he and his longtime bandmates, Mike Mogis and Nate Walcott, released their 11th studio album as <a href=\"https:\/\/www.rollingstone.com\/t\/bright-eyes\/\" id=\"auto-tag_bright-eyes\" data-tag=\"bright-eyes\">Bright Eyes<\/a>, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.rollingstone.com\/music\/music-news\/bright-eyes-five-dice-all-threes-album-bells-and-whistles-1235046605\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\"><em>Five Dice, All Threes<\/em><\/a>. That marked their first full-length in four years, following 2020\u2019s<a href=\"https:\/\/www.rollingstone.com\/music\/music-features\/bright-eyes-conor-oberst-interview-1055007\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\"> comeback album<\/a> <a href=\"https:\/\/www.rollingstone.com\/music\/music-album-reviews\/bright-eyes-first-album-in-nine-years-is-a-tense-love-letter-to-l-a-1046737\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\"><em>Down in the Weeds, Where the World Once Was<\/em><\/a>. But a couple of days before the album came out, the band was <a href=\"https:\/\/www.rollingstone.com\/music\/music-news\/bright-eyes-cancel-three-shows-before-album-release-1235106250\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">forced to cancel<\/a> three release-week shows after Oberst suffered a severe vocal injury following several warm-up shows.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-line-height-copy  lrv-a-font-body-l   \">\n\t\u201cI feel like it\u2019s been, like, 10 years,\u201d Oberst tells <em>Rolling Stone<\/em> from his home in Omaha, Nebraska. He still can\u2019t wrap his head around the fact that it\u2019s been a year since that happened. \u201cI was blown away when I got these texts a few days ago\u00a0\u2014 \u2018Happy year anniversary of the record.\u2019 I was like, \u2018What?\u2019 That seems crazy. That was forever ago.\u201d\u00a0<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-line-height-copy  lrv-a-font-body-l   \">\n\tIt\u2019s understandable that the release of <em>Five Dice, All Threes<\/em> seems so distant. Since then, Bright Eyes were able to hit the road again for an expansive tour, which turned out to be\u00a0a successful run filled with <a rel=\"noreferrer noopener nofollow\" target=\"_blank\" href=\"https:\/\/www.tiktok.com\/@bright.eyes.official\/video\/7462176004300279086?lang=en&amp;q=bright%20eyes%20tour&amp;t=1758814704841\">hearty sing-alongs<\/a> and Oberst\u2019s signature <a rel=\"noreferrer noopener nofollow\" target=\"_blank\" href=\"https:\/\/www.tiktok.com\/@erikawynn\/video\/7494777931256843551?lang=en&amp;q=conor%20oberst%20anti%20ice&amp;t=1758814832642\">onstage rants<\/a> in support of fundamental human rights for trans people and immigrants. In November, Bright Eyes will hit cities like Singapore, Jakarta, and Hong Kong for the first time on the Asia leg of their 2025 tour.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-line-height-copy  lrv-a-font-body-l   \">\n\tNow, Bright Eyes are leaning into the momentous time we\u2019re all living through with the release of a new EP called <em>Kids Table<\/em>. <em>Rolling Stone <\/em>caught up with Oberst to talk about everything that happened this year \u2014 from putting the new project together to the bold political activism apparent on their latest tour.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-line-height-copy  lrv-a-font-body-l   \">\n\t<strong>Did the band go into <em>Five Dice, All Threes<\/em> with the intention to make an EP afterwards, or did you just have too many B-sides from those sessions? <br \/><\/strong>Bright Eyes used to do this thing\u2026 Before<em> <a href=\"https:\/\/www.rollingstone.com\/music\/music-album-reviews\/bright-eyes-lifted-album-review-1235412554\/\" data-type=\"link\" data-id=\"https:\/\/www.rollingstone.com\/music\/music-album-reviews\/bright-eyes-lifted-album-review-1235412554\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Lifted<\/a><\/em>, we put out an EP called <em>Story in the Soil<\/em> and before <em><a href=\"https:\/\/www.rollingstone.com\/music\/music-album-reviews\/cassadaga-250131\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Cassadaga<\/a><\/em> we put out the <em>Four Winds<\/em> EP.\u00a0 We had our own label at the time, and so we were making up rules as we went along. We always record more songs than we end up putting on the record and, back then, we would put one song from the record on the EP, and then I think both of those EPs have five B-sides of extra songs. This is basically that, but in reverse. It is a reverse engineering of our old habits.<\/p>\n<section class=\"brands-most-popular \/\/ editors-pick-module lrv-u-margin-tb-2 lrv-u-border-a-2 u-box-shadow-5-5 lrv-u-padding-lr-1 a-span1 u-padding-b-1@tablet u-overflow-hidden\">\n<h2 id=\"section-heading\" class=\"c-heading larva  lrv-u-text-align-center u-border-color-black a-font-theme-primary-xxs lrv-u-color-black lrv-u-text-transform-uppercase u-letter-spacing-0063 lrv-u-padding-t-050 u-padding-b-0375@tablet lrv-u-padding-b-050@mobile-max lrv-u-border-b-2\">\n<p>\t\tEditor\u2019s picks<\/p>\n<\/h2>\n<\/section>\n<figure class=\"wp-block-embed is-type-video is-provider-youtube wp-block-embed-youtube\">\n<div class=\"wp-block-embed__wrapper\">\n<p><iframe loading=\"lazy\" title=\"Bright Eyes - Dyslexic Palindrome (feat. Hurray for the Riff Raff) [Official Video]\" width=\"1200\" height=\"675\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/SuLONtkvL1s?feature=oembed\" frameborder=\"0\" allow=\"accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share\" referrerpolicy=\"strict-origin-when-cross-origin\" allowfullscreen><\/iframe><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/figure>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-line-height-copy  lrv-a-font-body-l   \">\n\t<strong>Why did you choose to leave these songs off <\/strong><strong><em>Five Dice, All Threes<\/em><\/strong><strong>?<\/strong><br \/>\u201cShakespeare In a Nutshell\u201d is a weird song that we had started working on before the record. Sometimes there are these songs that get either too weird or just don\u2019t really fit with things. But then \u201cKids Table,\u201d \u201c1st World Blues,\u201d and \u201cDyslexic Palindrome,\u201d all of those were definitely contenders to be on the record. \u201cKids Table\u201d was one of the more single-ish songs. It is maybe one of the more accessible songs on the record and the EP. We purposely held it back knowing that we were going to eventually do <em>Kids Table<\/em>.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-line-height-copy  lrv-a-font-body-l   \">\n\tI really liked the last song, \u201cVictory City.\u201d That was one that I was pushing to put on the record, but there wasn\u2019t a good enough place. We still make records with the idea that people might listen to them all at once. It\u2019s very dinosaur of us. And because of all the times we\u2019ve run our own record company, we also have to think about how much music you can fit on a piece of vinyl.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-line-height-copy  lrv-a-font-body-l   \">\n\t<strong>How does it feel to make new habits, decades into your career, as you learn more?<\/strong><strong><br \/><\/strong>It\u2019s a combination of trying to do what we think is artistically cool as a band and what\u2019s logical. We\u2019re practical people from the Midwest, so we end up thinking logically about certain things like vinyl. For so much of our career, we didn\u2019t have the backing of a company, so we had to release music in the way that made sense for what we had to work with.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-line-height-copy  lrv-a-font-body-l   \">\n\tEverything is always changing and evolving, especially in the music industry. It\u2019s almost unrecognizable from 25 years ago. You just roll with the punches. My thing with success is really just longevity. I have seen so many talented musicians and friends and bands go on with their lives and get real jobs. The fact that I can still do this by writing my little songs is a victory in itself.<\/p>\n<section class=\"brands-most-popular \/\/ recirculation-modules lrv-u-margin-tb-2 lrv-u-border-a-2 u-box-shadow-5-5 lrv-u-padding-lr-1 a-span1 u-padding-b-1@tablet u-overflow-hidden\">\n<h2 id=\"section-heading\" class=\"c-heading larva  lrv-u-text-align-center u-border-color-black a-font-theme-primary-xxs lrv-u-color-black lrv-u-text-transform-uppercase u-letter-spacing-0063 lrv-u-padding-t-050 u-padding-b-0375@tablet lrv-u-padding-b-050@mobile-max lrv-u-border-b-2\">\n<p>\t\tRelated Content<\/p>\n<\/h2>\n<\/section>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-line-height-copy  lrv-a-font-body-l   \">\n\t<strong>You have a really moving cover of Lucinda Williams\u2019 \u201cSharp Cutting Wings (Song to a Poet)\u201d on the EP. Why was it important to record that cover?<\/strong><strong><br \/><\/strong>I had a lot of health problems and had to cancel shows. When I finally was home after all that, I just felt like \u201cI have to sing again. What am I going to sing?\u201d That song came to mind. I\u2019ve been singing that song for 25 years for myself and my friends, and I love Lucinda as a person and her music. It\u2019s a song I\u2019ve sung so much, but never recorded. It sounds rough on the recording, but you gotta start again somewhere, and that seemed like a good place to start again. It brought the EP into focus. I think of it as the centerpiece of the EP.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-line-height-copy  lrv-a-font-body-l   \">\n\t<strong>\u201c1st World Blues\u201d is Bright Eyes\u2019 interpretation of a ska song. What was it like to venture into that sound?<\/strong><br \/>You wouldn\u2019t maybe know it from the other music I\u2019ve released, but growing up we loved ska and punk rock music. When we were growing up, we would say we played punk music even though we had acoustic guitars and accordions. To us, that was still punk.\u00a0 Before indie rock was a label, I was always like, \u201cWhat is that?\u201d It describes the way something is released, but it doesn\u2019t really describe a sound.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-line-height-copy  lrv-a-font-body-l   \">\n\tIt\u2019s something I\u2019ve always liked as a listener, but never attempted myself. Writing with Alex Orange Drink, who worked on the record, was great. He\u2019s got punk rock roots and fronts [New York punk band] the So So Glos. I feel like Bright Eyes is unique because we do a lot of different kinds of music. I basically write folk songs and my voice and the songwriting are the common thread. As far as how we decorate the songs, it\u2019s like you walk into a big walk-in closet and decide how to dress it up. The fun part is decorating them and trying to expand our horizons creatively. But we\u2019re not going to try to start a new career as a ska band or anything like that.<\/p>\n<figure class=\"wp-block-embed is-type-video is-provider-youtube wp-block-embed-youtube\">\n<div class=\"wp-block-embed__wrapper\">\n<p><iframe loading=\"lazy\" title=\"Bright Eyes - 1st World Blues (Official Lyric Video)\" width=\"1200\" height=\"675\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/p1cRt0QjHzk?feature=oembed\" frameborder=\"0\" allow=\"accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share\" referrerpolicy=\"strict-origin-when-cross-origin\" allowfullscreen><\/iframe><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/figure>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-line-height-copy  lrv-a-font-body-l   \">\n\t<strong>Do you ever think about how an audience is going to respond to the band trying new things?<\/strong><br \/>It\u2019s funny, because I think of myself as a people pleaser. I don\u2019t like to have a bunch of conflicts in my life. But unfortunately, or fortunately, I assume that when we put out new music, some section of our fans aren\u2019t going to appreciate it at first. They usually come around to liking it, but it\u2019s a five-year delay until they\u2019re like, \u201cOh, this is cool.\u201d It\u2019s happened for so many of our records that now I just assume, \u201cThis is probably not going to be the most well-received thing.\u201d But we\u2019re proud of it. People that are invested in the band and have been for a long time, they know where we\u2019re coming from and what we\u2019re trying to do. I think it\u2019s a good thing to challenge your audience to take a step out of their comfort zone and further into the madness of what we do. We have such a vast catalog of music at this point that if you want to take a deep dive, I hope you can hold your breath a long time.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-line-height-copy  lrv-a-font-body-l   \">\n\t<strong>That speaks to the band\u2019s longevity too, not being afraid to try new things.<\/strong><br \/>Speaking as a fan, if someone makes an incredible record, I don\u2019t really want them to try to recreate that, because most of the time it\u2019s just going to be a slightly lesser version. We\u2019ve tried pretty hard to not fall into that trap. <em><a href=\"https:\/\/www.rollingstone.com\/music\/music-album-reviews\/im-wide-awake-its-morning-187728\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">I\u2019m Wide Awake, It\u2019s Morning<\/a><\/em> is our biggest commercial record, and even that was kind of a fluke. We were trying to make a Seventies folk record, just straight up Jackson Browne or Neil Young. That was an experiment. All of the records are kind of an experiment. <em>I\u2019m Wide Awake<\/em> just happened to hit the zeitgeist of the moment more than other ones did.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-line-height-copy  lrv-a-font-body-l   \">\n\t<strong>That album and <\/strong><strong><em>Digital Ash in a Digital Urn<\/em><\/strong><strong> turn 20 this year, and <\/strong><strong><em>Fever and Mirrors<\/em><\/strong><strong> turns 25. There are a lot of themes related to the passage of time on the new EP. Was that concept on your mind as you celebrate these major Bright Eyes anniversaries?<\/strong><br \/>Honestly, I\u2019ve been preoccupied with the passage of time and death since I was a child. Those themes run through all the music. But I know what you\u2019re saying with the anniversaries. I saw Granddaddy play in L.A., which is one of the first bands that took us on tour in the year 2000, and they were playing songs from the record they released when they took us on tour. I\u2019m sitting there having hallucinations. I remember them doing this exact thing when I was 20!<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-line-height-copy  lrv-a-font-body-l   \">\n\tBright Eyes is walking an interesting line because we have new music, but we tried to make set lists that were pretty career-spanning. Even so, what\u2019s memory lane and what\u2019s still relevant gets blurry. Sometimes I\u2019m like, \u201cWow, these songs are relevant even though they\u2019re 20 years old.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-line-height-copy  lrv-a-font-body-l   \">\n\t<strong>What\u2019s one of the songs that feels that way?<\/strong><strong><br \/><\/strong>While on tour, I was telling a story about a song called \u201cOld Soul Song (For the New World Order).\u201d I wrote it in 2003 before [the U.S.] went to Iraq for the war. It was a very serious time, and a lot of people lost their lives unnecessarily because of the Iraq War. But now, it seems so quaint in a way. The very bedrock of our values as a country and the democratic pillars of our government that once seemed immovable are being completely destroyed right now. In a lot of ways, it\u2019s 10 times more dangerous than it was in 2003, because what we\u2019re fighting over is the existential concept of this American experiment that has been happening for hundreds of years.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-line-height-copy  lrv-a-font-body-l   \">\n\t<strong>Though it might be even more dangerous now, Bright Eyes has remained vocal about the band\u2019s political stances, especially on the latest tour.<\/strong><strong><br \/><\/strong>Everywhere we went, we tried to spread the basic message that everyone on earth has human dignity. It comes down to trying to get people to see each other, to see themselves in each other, and to realize that when you attack people, especially people that are at a great disadvantage to you, you\u2019re just hurting yourself. You\u2019re hurting yourself morally. You\u2019re hurting your soul. You\u2019re hurting society as a whole. You\u2019re just making things worse. I\u2019m not going to go hold hands with the MAGA crowd, but we still have to realize that it comes down to humanity and recognizing every single person\u2019s humanity on earth. That\u2019s what I, in my little way, tried to say from the stage.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-line-height-copy  lrv-a-font-body-l   \">\n\t<strong>Your tour also supported minority groups who are actively under attack by selling <\/strong><a href=\"https:\/\/www.instagram.com\/p\/DIcO60zTGx6\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener nofollow\"><strong>\u201cDeport Conor Oberst\u201d<\/strong><\/a><strong> shirts to raise money for the National Immigration Law Center and launching the <\/strong><a href=\"https:\/\/www.instagram.com\/p\/DGiyxzARYfm\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener nofollow\"><strong>Poison Oak Foundation<\/strong><\/a><strong> to fund LGBTQ+ organizations. Why was this important to the band?<br \/><\/strong>All of the trans advocacy we\u2019ve done, it\u2019s personal to me because of people that I love that are trans. But, to me, to attack the immigrant population and the trans population, it is two perfect examples of the complete moral decrepitude of our politics right now. In my opinion, it\u2019s just complete and utter cruelty, and it should be called out as such. It makes me sad. It makes me want to fucking cry. We don\u2019t have that big of a megaphone, but we try to use it for making what I think are pretty simple, unarguable points.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-line-height-copy  lrv-a-font-body-l   \">\n\tBesides raising money, which is desperately needed, mostly for legal defense against this very absurd legislation that\u2019s making these very illegal, unconstitutional things possible, it\u2019s about letting those communities know that they\u2019re not alone and other people are standing with them. That\u2019s what we all should be doing. We should be standing up with whatever voice, whatever platform, whatever money, whatever we have because that\u2019s the right fucking thing to do.\u00a0<\/p>\n<section class=\"brands-most-popular \/\/ recirculation-modules trending-in-article lrv-u-margin-tb-2 lrv-u-border-a-2 u-box-shadow-5-5 lrv-u-padding-lr-1 a-span1 u-padding-b-1@tablet u-overflow-hidden\">\n<h2 id=\"section-heading\" class=\"c-heading larva  lrv-u-text-align-center u-border-color-black a-font-theme-primary-xxs lrv-u-color-black lrv-u-text-transform-uppercase u-letter-spacing-0063 lrv-u-padding-t-050 u-padding-b-0375@tablet lrv-u-padding-b-050@mobile-max lrv-u-border-b-2\">\n<p>\t\tTrending Stories<\/p>\n<\/h2>\n<\/section>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-line-height-copy  lrv-a-font-body-l   \">\n\tI don\u2019t have enough anger in me to get as angry as I should be. I just don\u2019t, but I\u2019m trying to be an active participant in this society and trying to at least say what I think is right and wrong. There\u2019s a line in \u201cShakespeare in a Nutshell\u201d that goes, \u201cYou do what you can, or you do what you can\u2019t.\u201d It\u2019s like, sometimes when you think you can\u2019t do it, you just do it anyway.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-line-height-copy  lrv-a-font-body-l   \">\n\t<strong>Music can\u2019t solve these problems, but it does help give some comfort as we try to wrap our heads around how terrible the world has become.<br \/><\/strong>That happens to me as a listener of music I love. It\u2019s one of the tricks in our bag. I say, \u201cour bag\u201d as people that have an intact human heart that aren\u2019t hell-bent on causing people suffering. One trick that we have that they don\u2019t have is magic. Music is magic, music is medicine, and we have that. They got their stupid Kanye and Kid Rock bullshit. It\u2019s not going to stand up to the actual magic.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<p><script async src=\"\/\/www.instagram.com\/embed.js\"><\/script><script async src=\"\/\/www.tiktok.com\/embed.js\"><\/script><br \/>\n<br \/><br \/>\n<br \/><a href=\"https:\/\/www.rollingstone.com\/music\/music-features\/conor-oberst-interview-bright-eyes-new-ep-1235435433\/\">Source link <\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Conor Oberst has had quite the year. 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