{"id":49701,"date":"2025-10-21T20:06:33","date_gmt":"2025-10-21T20:06:33","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/musicianvoice.com\/index.php\/2025\/10\/21\/tyler-the-creator-twitter-controversy-old-posts-resurface\/"},"modified":"2025-10-21T20:06:33","modified_gmt":"2025-10-21T20:06:33","slug":"tyler-the-creator-twitter-controversy-old-posts-resurface","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/musicianvoice.com\/index.php\/2025\/10\/21\/tyler-the-creator-twitter-controversy-old-posts-resurface\/","title":{"rendered":"Tyler, the Creator Twitter Controversy: Old Posts Resurface"},"content":{"rendered":"<p> <br \/>\n<\/p>\n<div>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-line-height-copy  lrv-a-font-body-l   \">\n\tIn 2015, alongside the release of his fourth album <em>Cherry Bomb<\/em>, Tyler, the Creator released a limited-edition zine as part of his Golf Media project featuring interviews with people like Seth Rogen, as well as ephemera related to the album, such as a scan of the Moleskine notebook where he jotted down his ideas. He dedicates a few pages in the book to highlight the albums he\u2019d been most influenced by: Clipse\u2019s Hell Hath No Fury, Pharrell\u2019s In My Mind, and, instructively, D\u2019angelo\u2019s 2000 masterpiece Voodoo. In his write-up about the late R&amp;B luminary\u2019s album, Tyler recalls getting $30 from his grandmother for his ninth birthday and buying the CD. \u201cMy favorite videos to see on BET were \u2018Get Up\u2019 by Amel Larrieux and \u2018Left Right\u2019 by D\u2019Angelo,\u201d he wrote. \u201cI bought both albums and I will never regret that.\u201d\u00a0<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-line-height-copy  lrv-a-font-body-l   \">\n\tLast week, following D\u2019 Angelo\u2019s tragic passing, Tyler took to Instagram to pay tribute to the artist who had such an impact on his music early on\u2014except, things quickly went haywire.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-line-height-copy  lrv-a-font-body-l   \">\n\tAfter a heartfelt post in which he reiterated much of what he wrote ten years ago, comments came rushing in, either dismissing the post and clamoring for new music or questioning who D\u2019Angelo was in the first place. As he often does, Tyler took to Twitter and criticized the segment of his fanbase he perjoratively called \u201cSun Seekers,\u201d a.k.a. the white fans who were unaware of D\u2019Angelo\u2019s legacy. A post from the popular hip-hop news aggregator Kurcco pointed out that Tyler himself liked a tweet that stated, \u201cNigga has charlie wilson, erykah badu, dj drama etc. collaborations and they still refuse to engage with black art on any meaningful level. very cannibalistic.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-line-height-copy  lrv-a-font-body-l   \">\n\tThe argument that emerged suggested that Tyler, the Creator, in his early, highly offensive Odd Future work, cultivated a fanbase of white incels who were inherently hostile to Black music. The refrain was that he should have expected these reactions to his D\u2019Angelo tribute and has no one to blame but himself. The evidence for this was Tweets and screenshots from his early career, where Tyler did everything from criticizing George Floyd protests to pulling \u201cedgy\u201d stunts like dressing in a Klan robe, and selling merch featuring a rendering of the offensive Sambo figure. More than provocations from an artist conveying a particular (misguided) form of racialized postmodern angst, these data points have come to serve as proof that Tyler hates himself and his own Blackness. It\u2019s the type of conversation tailor-made for the internet.\u00a0<\/p>\n<section class=\"brands-most-popular \/\/ editors-pick-module lrv-u-margin-tb-2 lrv-u-border-a-2 u-box-shadow-5-5 lrv-u-padding-lr-1 a-span1 u-padding-b-1@tablet u-overflow-hidden\">\n<h2 id=\"section-heading\" class=\"c-heading larva  lrv-u-text-align-center u-border-color-black a-font-theme-primary-xxs lrv-u-color-black lrv-u-text-transform-uppercase u-letter-spacing-0063 lrv-u-padding-t-050 u-padding-b-0375@tablet lrv-u-padding-b-050@mobile-max lrv-u-border-b-2\">\n<p>\t\tEditor\u2019s picks<\/p>\n<\/h2>\n<\/section>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-line-height-copy  lrv-a-font-body-l   \">\n\tThe notion that Tyler cultivated an audience of white incels flies in the face of the many Black fans Odd Future had at the <em>very beginning<\/em>. This was a crew of Black teenagers making sonically adventurous music that, in fact, garnered a great deal of young Black listeners. That\u2019s to say nothing of the growth in Tyler\u2019s audience over the past 15 years. Even if you take the argument on its face, it doesn\u2019t explain his contemporary fanbase, who, mathematically, outnumber those early fans by now. It\u2019s also just revisionist history. On the same feeds where Tyler shared offensive outbursts in the early 2010s, he\u2019d express his admiration for the likes of Erykah Badu and D\u2019Angelo. The whole point back then was that Tyler contained contradictions. The anger expressed in his music was not unlike Eminem, whose brash internal frustrations with masculinity fueled the most brilliant and simultaneously violent, misogynistic, and homophobic music of his career. You were never supposed to take these things literally.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-line-height-copy  lrv-a-font-body-l   \">\n\tThe illogic of this talking point extends to its conclusion: The suggestion that the past decade of work from Tyler, with its open embrace of both classic Black musical forms as well as more traditionalist rap (See: \u201cThat Guy,\u201d his buoyant take on Kendrick Lamar\u2019s \u201cHey Now\u201d), is all a ploy to latch on to new Black fans in order to remain relevant. To believe this, you would simply have to ignore anything that has occurred in real life as it relates to Tyler, the Creator, and Odd Future. You\u2019d have to rely on a curated retelling of history rather than any lived experience, which is precisely where the internet lives. In the gap between content and context.\u00a0<\/p>\n<section class=\"brands-most-popular \/\/ recirculation-modules lrv-u-margin-tb-2 lrv-u-border-a-2 u-box-shadow-5-5 lrv-u-padding-lr-1 a-span1 u-padding-b-1@tablet u-overflow-hidden\">\n<h2 id=\"section-heading\" class=\"c-heading larva  lrv-u-text-align-center u-border-color-black a-font-theme-primary-xxs lrv-u-color-black lrv-u-text-transform-uppercase u-letter-spacing-0063 lrv-u-padding-t-050 u-padding-b-0375@tablet lrv-u-padding-b-050@mobile-max lrv-u-border-b-2\">\n<p>\t\tRelated Content<\/p>\n<\/h2>\n<\/section>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-line-height-copy  lrv-a-font-body-l   \">\n\tTyler\u2019s love for hip-hop as an art form in the purest sense of the word is almost annoyingly well-documented. It was only last year when he got in a dust-up with the internet\u2019s white rapper of the month, Ian, calling out his style and affect as offensive during an interview with Maverick Carter. \u201cThere\u2019s this white kid, regular Caucasian man, who\u2019s like mocking Future and Gucci Mane \u2014 rap music \u2014 and people are like, \u2018Yo, this shit hard!\u2019 \u2026 and it\u2019s like, bro, it\u2019s parody. He\u2019s not even trying to make rap better,\u201d he said.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-line-height-copy  lrv-a-font-body-l   \">\n\tTyler booked Roy Ayers for Camp Flog Gnaw in 2017 and just this past March, after Ayers\u2019 death, he shared a heartfelt tribute to the neo-soul pioneer, calling him \u201cthe base of my sound.\u201d All of this is to say that, if anything, the average Tyler, the Creator fan is more likely a huge snob about <em>how much<\/em> they appreciate artists like D\u2019Angelo than a white kid who simply hates Black music.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-line-height-copy  lrv-a-font-body-l   \">\n\tWhat clearly frustrated Tyler was that the commenters were more focused on getting new music from him than on what he was actually posting. This is easily the most common problem faced by celebrities with their online fans, who are often so cravenly obsessed that they miss the bigger picture. It doesn\u2019t help that Tyler, like basically every other rapper to gain popularity in the past 20 years, has a large white audience \u2014 a phenomenon that predates Tyler <a href=\"https:\/\/nymag.com\/intelligencer\/article\/archives-1996-prep-school-gangsters-nancy-jo-sales.html\" rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\">by at least a generation<\/a>. However, it\u2019s a leap to call them \u201cincels\u201d and unclear what that designation, a term focused on lonely men and misogyny, would even mean in this context. Even still, today\u2019s so-called white incels \u2014 fueled by a steady diet of controversial streamers like Adin Ross and N3ON \u2014 are not listening to Tyler, the Creator, someone who has an album called <em>Flower Boy<\/em>.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-line-height-copy  lrv-a-font-body-l   \">\n\tThis is not even the first time in the past year that Tyler\u2019s old material has resurfaced online, spawning a familiar ouroboros of online discourse, shrouded in the language of accountability and well-meaning politics, that mostly serves to feed the beast of online engagement. Last year, in response to Tyler briefly<em> <\/em>de-throning Taylor Swift on Spotify\u2019s \u201cTop Artists \u2014 Global\u201d chart, Swifties started sharing screenshots of Tyler\u2019s old lyrics, spurring a days-long conversation around his past misogyny. He rebuffed the controversy in typical fashion, declaring during a show in Boston that, \u201cI got Swifties all mad at me with their racist a-s\u00ads \u2026 Bitch, go listen to \u2018Tron Cat\u2019. I don\u2019t give a fk, h. They gon\u2019 bring out the old me.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-line-height-copy  lrv-a-font-body-l   \">\n\tWith this latest flare-up, the venom is certainly more potent. Tyler\u2019s relationship to his Blackness \u2014 from early claims that he encouraged white fans to say the N word (the actual quote is <a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=Pj_w3UbIi4U&amp;list=UU5RwNJQSINkzIazWaM-lM3Q&amp;index=4\" rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\">boneheaded but far less sinister<\/a>), to disparaging comments he\u2019s made about Black women \u2014 is in many ways much more fertile ground for criticism. As such, TikTok creators have started weighing in with anecdotes about Tyler\u2019s alleged anti-Blackness that, of course, dovetail into stories about their own lives.\u00a0<\/p>\n<section class=\"brands-most-popular \/\/ recirculation-modules trending-in-article lrv-u-margin-tb-2 lrv-u-border-a-2 u-box-shadow-5-5 lrv-u-padding-lr-1 a-span1 u-padding-b-1@tablet u-overflow-hidden\">\n<h2 id=\"section-heading\" class=\"c-heading larva  lrv-u-text-align-center u-border-color-black a-font-theme-primary-xxs lrv-u-color-black lrv-u-text-transform-uppercase u-letter-spacing-0063 lrv-u-padding-t-050 u-padding-b-0375@tablet lrv-u-padding-b-050@mobile-max lrv-u-border-b-2\">\n<p>\t\tTrending Stories<\/p>\n<\/h2>\n<\/section>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-line-height-copy  lrv-a-font-body-l   \">\n\tIn fairness, many online commentators acknowledge some level of growth on Tyler\u2019s part but suggest that, since he has not publicly and explicitly apologized for his past behavior, he\u2019s paid insufficient penance for his actions. This latest outburst has been roundly described as Tyler receiving his \u201clashings.\u201d It\u2019s in that language where we can see what\u2019s really happening. There is very obviously no excuse for the kinds of posts and commentary Tyler was known for early in his career, but the internet is fueled by bloodlust, not justice. So much so that a tribute to D\u2019Angelo has turned into a nearly weeklong discussion about tweets from more than a decade ago. All the while, Chris Brown is on a Stadium world tour.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-line-height-copy  lrv-a-font-body-l   \">\n\tThe brand of discourse increasingly prevalent in online spaces, where we whittle individuals down to digestible data points, is useless in having actually productive conversations about anti-Blackness, or art, or misogyny. It\u2019s all content meant to poke and prod at the complex issues central to our identity, driving up intense emotions that inspire endless posts. The more one dimensionally you can paint someone, the better. Whereas Tyler, the Creator may have ridden in on a wave of optimism about the Internet as a tool for giving a voice to the misunderstood, it\u2019s grown into a force that decimates the nuance and context that make us human.\u00a0<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<p><br \/>\n<br \/><a href=\"https:\/\/www.rollingstone.com\/music\/music-features\/tyler-the-creator-twitter-controversy-past-tweets-1235451478\/\">Source link <\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>In 2015, alongside the release of his fourth album Cherry Bomb, Tyler, the Creator released a limited-edition zine as part of his Golf Media&#8230;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":5,"featured_media":49702,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[36],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-49701","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-pop","article","has-excerpt","has-avatar","has-author","has-date","has-comment-count","has-category-meta","has-read-more","thumbnail-"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/musicianvoice.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/49701","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/musicianvoice.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/musicianvoice.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/musicianvoice.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/5"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/musicianvoice.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=49701"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/musicianvoice.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/49701\/revisions"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/musicianvoice.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/49702"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/musicianvoice.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=49701"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/musicianvoice.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=49701"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/musicianvoice.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=49701"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}