{"id":55136,"date":"2026-01-08T16:42:00","date_gmt":"2026-01-08T16:42:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/musicianvoice.com\/index.php\/2026\/01\/08\/doechii-and-chappell-roan-are-right-enough-industry-plant-talk\/"},"modified":"2026-01-08T16:42:00","modified_gmt":"2026-01-08T16:42:00","slug":"doechii-and-chappell-roan-are-right-enough-industry-plant-talk","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/musicianvoice.com\/index.php\/2026\/01\/08\/doechii-and-chappell-roan-are-right-enough-industry-plant-talk\/","title":{"rendered":"Doechii and Chappell Roan Are Right: Enough &#8216;Industry Plant&#8217; Talk"},"content":{"rendered":"<p> <br \/>\n<\/p>\n<div>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-line-height-copy  lrv-a-font-body-l   \">\n\tJust before 2025 came to a close, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.rollingstone.com\/t\/doechii\/\" id=\"auto-tag_doechii\" data-tag=\"doechii\">Doechii<\/a> dropped a new song called \u201c<a href=\"https:\/\/www.rollingstone.com\/music\/music-news\/doechii-sza-new-song-girl-get-up-1235492567\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Girl, Get Up<\/a>.\u201d What got the most attention wasn\u2019t the feature from SZA, or the synthy sample of Birdman and Clipse\u2019s 2002 hit \u201cWhat Happened to That Boy.\u201d It was Doechii\u2019s lyrics, where she delivered a very pointed in\/out list for the new year. In: drinking kombucha, getting good sleep, and meditating. Out: misogynistic assholes on the internet.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-line-height-copy  lrv-a-font-body-l   \">\n\tIf you\u2019re a woman in the music industry, the \u201cout\u201d is familiar territory. Doechii has been <a href=\"https:\/\/www.rollingstone.com\/music\/music-features\/doechii-online-criticism-controversy-1235293041\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">battling<\/a> these guys since 2024, ever since she broke through with her excellent full-length debut, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.rollingstone.com\/music\/music-album-reviews\/doechii-lligator-bites-never-heal-review-1235092081\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\"><em>Alligator Bites Never Heal<\/em><\/a>, winning a Grammy for Best Rap Album (and, as she brags on \u201cGirl, Get Up,\u201d a co-sign from Kendrick Lamar). Despite making music for over a decade now, finding mainstream success resulted in the internet accusing the Florida rapper of being an \u201cindustry plant,\u201d specifically controversial streamer <a href=\"https:\/\/www.rollingstone.com\/politics\/politics-news\/adin-ross-trump-rolex-cybertruck-interview-1235074316\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Adin Ross<\/a>, who called her out on his <a href=\"https:\/\/www.instagram.com\/p\/DJm9dKnPdCI\/?img_index=2\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener nofollow\">Kick channel<\/a>. Doechiii fires back at these claims on the track: \u201cAll that industry plant shit wack\/I see it on the blogs, I see you in the chats,\u201d she says, adding, \u201cY\u2019all can\u2019t fathom that I work this hard\/And y\u2019all can\u2019t fathom that I earned this chart.\u201d\u00a0<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-line-height-copy  lrv-a-font-body-l   \">\n\tSo what exactly is an \u201cindustry plant\u201d? It\u2019s a term lobbed at artists in an attempt to discredit them, to question their authenticity and to suggest their rise to fame couldn\u2019t have happened organically \u2014 that there were marketing ploys and executives pulling the strings, manufacturing their artistry behind closed doors, or maybe their parents just have connections in the music industry. And though some male musicians, like the British rocker <a href=\"https:\/\/www.rollingstone.com\/music\/music-features\/yungblud-interview-podcast-ozzy-aerosmith-1235494341\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Yungblud<\/a> or the R&amp;B singer <a href=\"https:\/\/www.rollingstone.com\/music\/music-features\/who-is-4batz-drake-remix-industry-plant-1234982967\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">4batz<\/a>, have faced industry plant accusations, anyone paying attention can see that this term is mostly directed at female musicians.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-line-height-copy  lrv-a-font-body-l   \">\n\t\u201cIt\u2019s such an insane fucking double standard,\u201d Phoebe Bridgers <a href=\"https:\/\/www.nme.com\/big-reads\/phoebe-bridgers-cover-interview-2020-punisher-2685827\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener nofollow\">said<\/a><em> <\/em>in 2020. \u201cIf you have wealthy parents, you\u2019re not allowed to make music as a woman, but you\u2019re rewarded for it as a man. Every white boy who is mediocre is an industry plant by that standard.\u201d Or, as <a href=\"https:\/\/www.rollingstone.com\/t\/wet-leg\/\" id=\"auto-tag_wet-leg\" data-tag=\"wet-leg\">Wet Leg<\/a>\u2019s Rhian Teasdale <a href=\"https:\/\/www.rollingstone.com\/music\/music-features\/wet-leg-grammys-2023-preview-sexism-1234607351\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">told <em>Rolling Stone<\/em><\/a> in 2022: \u201cWhen it comes down to it, it\u2019s just misogyny, isn\u2019t it? If people are gonna troll us, then I\u2019m definitely gonna troll them back.\u201d<\/p>\n<section class=\"brands-most-popular \/\/ editors-pick-module lrv-u-margin-tb-2 lrv-u-border-a-2 u-box-shadow-5-5 lrv-u-padding-lr-1 a-span1 u-padding-b-1@tablet u-overflow-hidden\">\n<h2 id=\"section-heading\" class=\"c-heading larva  lrv-u-text-align-center u-border-color-black a-font-theme-primary-xxs lrv-u-color-black lrv-u-text-transform-uppercase u-letter-spacing-0063 lrv-u-padding-t-050 u-padding-b-0375@tablet lrv-u-padding-b-050@mobile-max lrv-u-border-b-2\">\n<p>\t\tEditor\u2019s picks<\/p>\n<\/h2>\n<\/section>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-line-height-copy  lrv-a-font-body-l   \">\n\tThe term \u201cindustry plant\u201d first surfaced on <a href=\"https:\/\/www.kanyetothe.com\/threads\/what-exactly-is-an-industry-plant.1809681\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener nofollow\">hip-hop forums<\/a> in the early 2010s, but over time it\u2019s spread through genres like indie rock and pop. Lana Del Rey was one notable victim of this narrative, primarily after it came out that she\u2019d <a href=\"https:\/\/www.thefader.com\/2014\/06\/04\/cover-story-lana-del-rey-is-anyone-she-wants-to-be\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener nofollow\">dated a label head<\/a> for several years. He never signed her, but Del Rey playfully leaned into the controversy anyway, releasing \u201cFucked My Way Up to the Top\u201d on 2014\u2019s <em>Ultraviolence<\/em>.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-line-height-copy  lrv-a-font-body-l   \">\n\tThe phrase became so popular, so casually thrown at female musicians, that it\u2019s become commonplace to ask them how they feel about it in interviews. In 2022, I <a href=\"https:\/\/www.rollingstone.com\/music\/music-features\/king-princess-hold-on-baby-cover-story-1355345\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">asked King Princess<\/a>, real name Mikaela Straus, about the internet discovering that Ida and Isidor Straus, the Macy\u2019s co-owners who famously died on the Titanic, were her great-great-grandparents. She pointed out that she didn\u2019t actually grow up swimming in Scrooge McDuck-style wealth. \u201cFundamentally, people are frustrated by the socioeconomic state of the music industry,\u201d she said. \u201cSo I totally get where it comes from. I\u2019m just not that girl. I\u2019m not going to front like I was some rich kid. There were tough moments, and there still are.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-line-height-copy  lrv-a-font-body-l   \">\n\tClaire Cottrill, who performs as <a href=\"https:\/\/www.rollingstone.com\/t\/clairo\/\" id=\"auto-tag_clairo\" data-tag=\"clairo\">Clairo<\/a>, was criticized for not being the self-made bedroom-pop phenom that fans imagined her to be, because they found out that her father was friendly with the founder of her label at the time, Fader\u2019s Jon Cohen. Some people seemed angry about the fact that this wasn\u2019t disclosed in interviews, though Cottrill has never denied it, and if anything, her honesty about it only adds to her authenticity.\u00a0<\/p>\n<section class=\"brands-most-popular \/\/ recirculation-modules lrv-u-margin-tb-2 lrv-u-border-a-2 u-box-shadow-5-5 lrv-u-padding-lr-1 a-span1 u-padding-b-1@tablet u-overflow-hidden\">\n<h2 id=\"section-heading\" class=\"c-heading larva  lrv-u-text-align-center u-border-color-black a-font-theme-primary-xxs lrv-u-color-black lrv-u-text-transform-uppercase u-letter-spacing-0063 lrv-u-padding-t-050 u-padding-b-0375@tablet lrv-u-padding-b-050@mobile-max lrv-u-border-b-2\">\n<p>\t\tRelated Content<\/p>\n<\/h2>\n<\/section>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-line-height-copy  lrv-a-font-body-l   \">\n\t\u201cI definitely am not blind to the fact that things have been easier for me than other people\u2019s experiences,\u201d she told me in her <a href=\"https:\/\/www.rollingstone.com\/music\/music-features\/clairo-new-album-sling-blouse-antonoff-immunity-1193000\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">2021 <em>RS <\/em>cover story.<\/a> \u201cIt would be stupid of me to not acknowledge the privilege I had from the start to be able to sign somewhere where there\u2019s trust, to be able to sign a record deal that doesn\u2019t revolve around keeping myself afloat financially\u2026but I would be stupid to not use that relationship in a moment where I was really scared and really confused. People just think what they want to think and I can\u2019t stop that, but I am getting better at explaining it for what it is.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-line-height-copy  lrv-a-font-body-l   \">\n\tEven superstars like Billie Eilish and <a href=\"https:\/\/www.rollingstone.com\/t\/chappell-roan\/\" id=\"auto-tag_chappell-roan\" data-tag=\"chappell-roan\">Chappell Roan<\/a> have been met with skepticism. \u201cThey\u2019re nobodies!\u201d Eilish <a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=VavRLtZvmmY&amp;t=164s\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener nofollow\">joked<\/a> of her working-actor parents. \u201cWhere\u2019s the plant? Where\u2019s the seed, bro? Where\u2019d you put it? I\u2019d love to be an industry plant. I would love to have not worked hard for this.\u201d\u00a0<\/p>\n<section class=\"brands-most-popular \/\/ recirculation-modules trending-in-article lrv-u-margin-tb-2 lrv-u-border-a-2 u-box-shadow-5-5 lrv-u-padding-lr-1 a-span1 u-padding-b-1@tablet u-overflow-hidden\">\n<h2 id=\"section-heading\" class=\"c-heading larva  lrv-u-text-align-center u-border-color-black a-font-theme-primary-xxs lrv-u-color-black lrv-u-text-transform-uppercase u-letter-spacing-0063 lrv-u-padding-t-050 u-padding-b-0375@tablet lrv-u-padding-b-050@mobile-max lrv-u-border-b-2\">\n<p>\t\tTrending Stories<\/p>\n<\/h2>\n<\/section>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-line-height-copy  lrv-a-font-body-l   \">\n\tRoan, whose career skyrocketed in 2024, a good 10 years after she began making music, had an equally funny response. \u201cJust because you don\u2019t know someone doesn\u2019t mean that they\u2019re an industry plant,\u201d <a href=\"https:\/\/www.rollingstone.com\/music\/music-features\/chappell-roan-good-luck-babe-fame-fans-1235094314\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">she said<\/a> in her <em>RS <\/em>cover story. \u201cDid you ever consider maybe you\u2019re just out of the loop?\u201d\u00a0<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-line-height-copy  lrv-a-font-body-l   \">\n\tPerhaps this is something we should all consider this year. So we\u2019ll repeat Doechii\u2019s lessons, with a slight tweak thanks to Chappell. In: kombucha, getting good sleep\u00a0\u2014 and admitting when you\u2019re just out of the loop. Out: baseless allegations against musicians.\u00a0<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<p><script async src=\"\/\/www.instagram.com\/embed.js\"><\/script><br \/>\n<br \/><br \/>\n<br \/><a href=\"https:\/\/www.rollingstone.com\/music\/music-features\/industry-plant-doechii-chappell-roan-1235494762\/\">Source link <\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Just before 2025 came to a close, Doechii dropped a new song called \u201cGirl, Get Up.\u201d What got the most attention wasn\u2019t the feature&#8230;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":5,"featured_media":55137,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[36],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-55136","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-pop","article","has-excerpt","has-avatar","has-author","has-date","has-comment-count","has-category-meta","has-read-more","thumbnail-"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/musicianvoice.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/55136","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/musicianvoice.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/musicianvoice.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/musicianvoice.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/5"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/musicianvoice.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=55136"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/musicianvoice.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/55136\/revisions"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/musicianvoice.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/55137"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/musicianvoice.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=55136"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/musicianvoice.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=55136"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/musicianvoice.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=55136"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}