{"id":59256,"date":"2026-03-03T14:35:50","date_gmt":"2026-03-03T14:35:50","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/musicianvoice.com\/index.php\/2026\/03\/03\/5-ways-metallicas-master-of-puppets-could-have-been-different\/"},"modified":"2026-03-03T14:35:50","modified_gmt":"2026-03-03T14:35:50","slug":"5-ways-metallicas-master-of-puppets-could-have-been-different","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/musicianvoice.com\/index.php\/2026\/03\/03\/5-ways-metallicas-master-of-puppets-could-have-been-different\/","title":{"rendered":"5 Ways Metallica&#8217;s &#8216;Master of Puppets&#8217; Could Have Been Different"},"content":{"rendered":"<p> <br \/>\n<\/p>\n<div>\n<p>There&#8217;s nothing you would change about\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/ultimateclassicrock.com\/tags\/metallica\/\">Metallica<\/a>&#8216;s\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/ultimateclassicrock.com\/tags\/master-of-puppets\/\"><em>Master of Puppets<\/em><\/a>, right?<\/p>\n<p>Released on March 3, 1986, the band&#8217;s third album is <a href=\"https:\/\/ultimateclassicrock.com\/metallica-master-of-puppets\/\">widely regarded as their masterpiece<\/a>, the point at which they took thrash metal to unprecedented levels of sophistication.<\/p>\n<p>But like any band recording a new album, at several points Metallica faced creative decisions that could have made <em>Master of Puppets<\/em> turn out differently, in both big and small ways. Here&#8217;s a look at five of those &#8220;what if?&#8230; moments:<\/p>\n<h3>1. Geddy Lee Once Discussed Producing &#8216;Master of Puppets&#8217;<\/h3>\n<p>In a 2015 interview, <a href=\"https:\/\/ultimateclassicrock.com\/tags\/geddy-lee\">Geddy Lee<\/a> confirmed that he <em>could<\/em> have been the producer on <em>Master of Puppets<\/em>.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;It\u2019s sort of true,&#8221; <a href=\"https:\/\/ultimateclassicrock.com\/tags\/rush\/\">Rush<\/a>&#8216;s legendary singer and bassist\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/ultimateclassicrock.com\/geddy-lee-master-of-puppets\/\">explained<\/a>. &#8220;There was some discussion with Lars, back in the day, about working with them.\u00a0 I was friends with their management, and I met Lars back in England.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;I remember going to see them here in Toronto when they played at the Masonic Temple<a href=\"https:\/\/www.metallica.com\/tour\/1985-01-19-toronto-canada.html\" target=\"_blank\"> [in 1985]<\/a>. We talked about it, and I liked their band a lot at that time. But it just never came together.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p><em>Master of Puppets<\/em> was instead co-produced by Metallica and Flemming Rasmussen, the same team credited on 1984&#8217;s <a href=\"https:\/\/ultimateclassicrock.com\/metallica-ride-the-lightning-controversy\/\"><em>Ride the Lightning<\/em><\/a>. Rasumussen would later team up with Ulrich and singer \/ guitarist <a href=\"https:\/\/ultimateclassicrock.com\/tags\/james-hetfield\/\">James Hetfield<\/a>\u00a0as co-producers on 1988&#8217;s <a href=\"https:\/\/ultimateclassicrock.com\/metallica-and-justice-for-all\/\"><em>&#8230;And Justice for All<\/em><\/a>.<\/p>\n<h3>2. The Album Was Originally Going to Begin With&#8230; Bobcat Goldthwait?<\/h3>\n<p>Instead of the deceptively soothing acoustic guitars that kick off &#8220;Battery,&#8221; the first thing you hear every time you put on <em>Master of Puppets<\/em> might have been the strangled cat vocal stylings of comedian and <em>Police Academy<\/em> star Bobcat Goldthwait.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;The band had just loaded all the session tapes back into their car [when] Lars remembered that they were going to use a sound bite from the comedian Bobcat Goldthwait at the beginning of the album,&#8221; mixing engineer Mchael Wagener recalled in the liner notes to the 2017 box set edition of <em>Master of Puppets<\/em>.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;Suggestions were made to get all the tapes back out of the car and set up the studio again,&#8221; he continued. &#8220;But in the end, we all decided against it, thinking it could be added in mastering, which never happened, as far as I know.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p><strong>Read More: <a href=\"https:\/\/ultimateclassicrock.com\/metallica-master-of-puppets-facts\/\">30 Battering &#8216;Master of Puppets&#8217; Facts<\/a><\/strong><\/p>\n<h3>3. &#8216;Welcome Home (Sanitarium)&#8217; and &#8216;Orion&#8217; Started Out as One Song<\/h3>\n<p>The fourth and seventh songs on <em>Master of Puppets<\/em> were at one point joined together in a nine-minute epic known as &#8220;Only Thing.&#8221; You can hear them together in this form in a late June 1985 demo, taken from the 2017 box set edition of the album.<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<h3>4. &#8216;Disposable Heroes&#8217; Donated a Riff to &#8216;Damage, Inc.&#8217;<\/h3>\n<p>Confession: This is by far the smallest change on this list. But if you listen to the June 1985 demo version of &#8220;Disposable Heroes,&#8221; you&#8217;ll hear a familiar riff (right around the six-minute mark) which was later removed and donated to <em>Master of Puppets<\/em>&#8216; closing song, &#8220;Damage, Inc.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<h3>5. Two Cover Songs Were Recorded for B-Sides, Then Scrapped<\/h3>\n<p>In a 1986 interview with Metal Forces magazine, Ulrich reveals that Metallica recorded two cover songs during the <em>Master of Puppets<\/em> sessions, intending to release them as B-sides at they did with &#8220;Am I Evil?&#8221; and &#8220;Blitzkrieg&#8221; on <em>Ride the Lightning<\/em>&#8216;s &#8220;Creeping Death&#8221; single.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;We didn&#8217;t finish the recordings because we didn&#8217;t like the way they sounded, as they sounded too much like the album material, so we binned them,&#8221; he explained. We should have made them sound like [the] previous B-side stuff.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>One of the two 1985 tracks, a cover of Diamond Head&#8217;s &#8220;The Prince,&#8221; was later re-recorded with Jason Newsted on bass, and released as an <em>&#8230;And Justice for All<\/em>-era B-side. The <em>Puppets<\/em>-era recording was eventually released on the 2017 box set.<\/p>\n<p>So was the other song from those 1985 sessions, a cover of Fang&#8217;s &#8220;The Money Will Roll Right In,&#8221; which lead guitarist Kirk Hammett said Metallica didn&#8217;t get exactly right.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;The reason [our version] wasn\u2019t released in the first place was that it had none of the punk-rock charm when we recorded it; it was too slick, and it was a bit overplayed,&#8221; he told\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/www.revolvermag.com\/music\/kirk-hammett-youthful-mischief-behind-metallicas-master-puppets\/\">Revolver<\/a>. &#8220;I mean, Cliff and I don\u2019t even play on it, and it\u2019s a bit overplayed. [Laughs] It was just something that we tried and thought, &#8216;You know \u2026&#8217; It doesn\u2019t have that raunchiness and that humor that the original had.&#8221;<\/p>\n<div class=\"photogallery-wrapper blog-photogallery \">\n<h2 class=\"photogallery-title\">Metallica Lineup Changes: A Complete Guide<\/h2>\n<div class=\"photogallery-description\">\n<p>They became the most successful heavy metal band in history, but not without the occasional personnel shift.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<p class=\"photogallery-credit\">Gallery Credit: Ed Rivadavia<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<p><script src=\"https:\/\/ultimateclassicrock.com\/rest\/carbon\/api\/scripts.js?mver=162&#038;gver=9&#038;bid=295&#038;urls[]=https%3A%2F%2Fbtloader.com%2Ftag%3Fo%3D5642230212591616%26upapi%3Dtrue&#038;urls[]=https%3A%2F%2Fcdn.p-n.io%2Fpushly-sdk.min.js%3Fdomain_key%3DmxuuNIMSzp6MHphJEoAGlLFQ3qmwQguzkGZl&#038;urls[]=https%3A%2F%2Ftownsquare.media%2Fpublic%2Fresources%2Fjs%2Fpubcid.min.js&#038;urls[]=https%3A%2F%2Fplatform.twitter.com%2Fwidgets.js&#038;urls[]=https%3A%2F%2Fapis.google.com%2Fjs%2Fplatform.js&#038;urls[]=https%3A%2F%2Fconnect.facebook.net%2Fen_US%2Fsdk.js&#038;urls[]=https%3A%2F%2Fassets.pinterest.com%2Fjs%2Fpinit.js\" type=\"text\/javascript\" async defer data-osano=\"ESSENTIAL\"><\/script><br \/>\n<br \/><br \/>\n<br \/><a href=\"https:\/\/ultimateclassicrock.com\/metallica-master-of-puppets-could-have-turned-out-differently\/\">Source link <\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>There&#8217;s nothing you would change about\u00a0Metallica&#8216;s\u00a0Master of Puppets, right? 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