{"id":62545,"date":"2026-04-15T17:12:52","date_gmt":"2026-04-15T17:12:52","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/musicianvoice.com\/index.php\/2026\/04\/15\/joy-division-new-order-are-finally-in-the-rock-hall-its-about-time\/"},"modified":"2026-04-15T17:12:52","modified_gmt":"2026-04-15T17:12:52","slug":"joy-division-new-order-are-finally-in-the-rock-hall-its-about-time","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/musicianvoice.com\/index.php\/2026\/04\/15\/joy-division-new-order-are-finally-in-the-rock-hall-its-about-time\/","title":{"rendered":"Joy Division\/New Order Are Finally in the Rock Hall. It&#8217;s About Time"},"content":{"rendered":"<p> <br \/>\n<\/p>\n<div>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-line-height-copy  lrv-a-font-body-l   \">\n\tUp, down, turn around, please don\u2019t let me hit the ground. Today is a celebration moment for fans of <a href=\"https:\/\/www.rollingstone.com\/t\/joy-division\/\" id=\"auto-tag_joy-division\" data-tag=\"joy-division\">Joy Division<\/a> and <a href=\"https:\/\/www.rollingstone.com\/t\/new-order\/\" id=\"auto-tag_new-order\" data-tag=\"new-order\">New Order<\/a>, finally inducted into the Rock &amp; Roll Hall of Fame, after <a href=\"https:\/\/www.rollingstone.com\/music\/music-features\/new-order-joy-division-rock-and-roll-hall-of-fame-1235326267\/\" data-type=\"link\" data-id=\"https:\/\/www.rollingstone.com\/music\/music-features\/new-order-joy-division-rock-and-roll-hall-of-fame-1235326267\/\">decades of rejection<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-line-height-copy  lrv-a-font-body-l   \">\n\tEven if you consider them two separate units, they\u2019re both ridiculously overqualified for the Hall \u2014 two of the most innovative and influential bands of the past 50 years. Combined into one for last year\u2019s nomination, on one of the weakest ballots in history, they still got stiffed. It looked like a hopeless case.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-line-height-copy  lrv-a-font-body-l   \">\n\tSo this is a big win for the Hall, which needs Joy Division and New Order far more than these bands need the Hall. For years, they\u2019ve been the Hall\u2019s most scandalous omission. But it\u2019s a hopeful sign that maybe the voters are ready to let go of the institution\u2019s long-running hostility to Eighties and Nineties rock. It would even qualify as a happy occasion, if that didn\u2019t seem sacrilegious for the band that gave us \u201cDisorder,\u201d \u201cIsolation,\u201d \u201cWilderness,\u201d and \u201cLove Will Tear Us Apart.\u201d<\/p>\n<figure class=\"wp-block-embed is-type-video is-provider-youtube wp-block-embed-youtube\">\n<div class=\"wp-block-embed__wrapper\">\n<p><iframe loading=\"lazy\" title=\"Joy Division - Transmission [OFFICIAL MUSIC VIDEO]\" width=\"1200\" height=\"900\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/6dBt3mJtgJc?feature=oembed\" frameborder=\"0\" allow=\"accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share\" referrerpolicy=\"strict-origin-when-cross-origin\" allowfullscreen><\/iframe><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/figure>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-line-height-copy  lrv-a-font-body-l   \">\n\tJoy Division lasted only a few years, rising out of the late-Seventies punk explosion, with two sublime albums, <em><a href=\"https:\/\/www.rollingstone.com\/music\/music-album-reviews\/unknown-pleasures-252047\/\" data-type=\"link\" data-id=\"https:\/\/www.rollingstone.com\/music\/music-album-reviews\/unknown-pleasures-252047\/\">Unknown Pleasures<\/a><\/em> and <em>Closer<\/em>, as well as a string of singles like \u201cTransmission\u201d and \u201cAtmosphere.\u201d They defined a new style of industrial doom, reflecting the bombed-out urban bleakness of their Northern English home city, Manchester. But tragically, singer Ian Curtis died in May 1980, on the eve of their first U.S. tour. The other three kept playing, simply because they had no idea what else to do, regrouping as New Order but refusing to touch any Joy Division material.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-line-height-copy  lrv-a-font-body-l   \">\n\tGuitarist Bernard Sumner took over as the new singer, since nobody else wanted the job. \u201cI felt I couldn\u2019t sing and play guitar at the same time,\u201d he wrote in his memoir<em> Chapter and Verse<\/em>. \u201cWell, actually, I couldn\u2019t sing full stop.\u201d (Barney\u2019s not being modest there.) They recruited Gillian Gilbert, the drummer\u2019s girlfriend, on synthesizer, as they began dabbling in the electronic sounds they\u2019d heard on late nights in sleazy New York clubs. New Order\u2019s breakthrough was the 1982 single \u201cTemptation,\u201d nine minutes of trembly post-punk disco adrenaline, mixing goth gloom and dance-floor rapture. Yet almost by accident, it blew up on actual floors, leading to club classics like \u201cBlue Monday,\u201d \u201cConfusion,\u201d \u201cBizarre Love Triangle,\u201d and \u201cTrue Faith,\u201d as well as classic albums like <em>Brotherhood<\/em> (which turns 40 this fall). The whole history of pop music is encapsulated in this band\u2019s evolution from shy floor-staring twits to beatbox-crazed party people.<\/p>\n<section class=\"brands-most-popular \/\/ editors-pick-module lrv-u-margin-tb-2 lrv-u-border-a-2 u-box-shadow-5-5 lrv-u-padding-lr-1 a-span1 u-padding-b-1@tablet u-overflow-hidden\">\n<h2 id=\"section-heading\" class=\"c-heading larva  lrv-u-text-align-center u-border-color-black a-font-theme-primary-xxs lrv-u-color-black lrv-u-text-transform-uppercase u-letter-spacing-0063 lrv-u-padding-t-050 u-padding-b-0375@tablet lrv-u-padding-b-050@mobile-max lrv-u-border-b-2\">\n<p>\t\tEditor\u2019s picks<\/p>\n<\/h2>\n<\/section>\n<figure class=\"wp-block-embed is-type-video is-provider-youtube wp-block-embed-youtube\">\n<div class=\"wp-block-embed__wrapper\">\n<p><iframe loading=\"lazy\" title=\"New Order - Temptation (Official Music Video) [HD Upgrade]\" width=\"1200\" height=\"675\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/xxDv_RTdLQo?feature=oembed\" frameborder=\"0\" allow=\"accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share\" referrerpolicy=\"strict-origin-when-cross-origin\" allowfullscreen><\/iframe><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/figure>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-line-height-copy  lrv-a-font-body-l   \">\n\tAs everybody knows, New Order eventually split into two factions of mortal enemies. Sumner, Gilbert, and drummer Stephen Morris have carried on, while bassist Peter Hook quit to start his own ace live band, the Light, playing the exact same catalog on rival tours. Barney and Hooky both wrote excellent memoirs chronicling how much they despise each other, stacking up petty grudges like amps. Imagining these two sharing the same podium? Compared to this crew, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.rollingstone.com\/music\/music-features\/oasis-liam-noel-gallagher-reunion-denied-1235088444\/\" data-type=\"link\" data-id=\"https:\/\/www.rollingstone.com\/music\/music-features\/oasis-liam-noel-gallagher-reunion-denied-1235088444\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">the Gallagher brothers<\/a> are a snugglefest.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-line-height-copy  lrv-a-font-body-l   \">\n\tBut both bands\u2019 influence runs deep all over the music world, crossing all generational and genre lines. Olivia Rodrigo just raved about them on the Rock &amp; Roll Hall of Fame\u2019s <em>Music Makes Us <\/em>podcast with Kathleen Hanna. Asked what she\u2019d been listening to lately, she replied, \u201cI\u2019ve been diving deeper into the Cure\u2019s discography, as well as some of their contemporaries like New Order and Joy Division.\u201d No wonder her upcoming album has the Ian-worthy title <em>You Seem Pretty Sad for a Girl In Love<\/em>, which sounds like a line from \u201cShe\u2019s Lost Control.\u201d Will \u201cDrop Dead\u201d be her answer to \u201cDead Souls\u201d?<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-line-height-copy  lrv-a-font-body-l   \">\n\tIn Eighties terms, let\u2019s put it this way: New Order are the first band from the <em>Pretty in Pink<\/em> soundtrack to make the Hall, which is a massive generational sea change. This can only mean good things for the Psychedelic Furs, Echo and the Bunnymen, INXS (nominated this year, but maybe next time), and Orchestral Manoeuvres in the Dark, all of whom get my vote.<\/p>\n<section class=\"brands-most-popular \/\/ recirculation-modules lrv-u-margin-tb-2 lrv-u-border-a-2 u-box-shadow-5-5 lrv-u-padding-lr-1 a-span1 u-padding-b-1@tablet u-overflow-hidden\">\n<h2 id=\"section-heading\" class=\"c-heading larva  lrv-u-text-align-center u-border-color-black a-font-theme-primary-xxs lrv-u-color-black lrv-u-text-transform-uppercase u-letter-spacing-0063 lrv-u-padding-t-050 u-padding-b-0375@tablet lrv-u-padding-b-050@mobile-max lrv-u-border-b-2\">\n<p>\t\tRelated Content<\/p>\n<\/h2>\n<\/section>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-line-height-copy  lrv-a-font-body-l   \">\n\tBut the Manchester death-disco kings are part of a stellar Hall of Fame class this year. The voters chose impeccably: Wu-Tang Clan, Luther Vandross (both first-time nominees, crazy as it seems), Oasis, Sade, Iron Maiden, Phil Collins, and Billy Idol. Everybody I voted for got in \u2014 definitely the first time that\u2019s ever happened. But there\u2019s also a noble slate of Early Influences: <a data-id=\"https:\/\/www.rollingstone.com\/music\/music-features\/celia-cruz-rock-and-roll-hall-of-fame-queen-of-salsa-1235547481\/\" data-type=\"link\" href=\"https:\/\/www.rollingstone.com\/music\/music-features\/celia-cruz-rock-and-roll-hall-of-fame-queen-of-salsa-1235547481\/\">Celia Cruz<\/a>, Fela Kuti, Queen Latifah, <a data-id=\"https:\/\/www.rollingstone.com\/music\/music-features\/mc-lyte-rock-hall-of-fame-interview-1235546700\/\" data-type=\"link\" href=\"https:\/\/www.rollingstone.com\/music\/music-features\/mc-lyte-rock-hall-of-fame-interview-1235546700\/\">MC Lyte<\/a>, and <a data-id=\"https:\/\/www.rollingstone.com\/music\/music-features\/gram-parsons-daughter-rock-and-roll-hall-of-fame-1235545597\/\" data-type=\"link\" href=\"https:\/\/www.rollingstone.com\/music\/music-features\/gram-parsons-daughter-rock-and-roll-hall-of-fame-1235545597\/\">Gram Parsons<\/a>. There are Musical Excellence nods for producers Jimmy Miller (who made the Stones\u2019 best albums), Arif Mardin (who deserves it for Scritti Politti\u2019s <em>Cupid &amp; Psyche \u201985<\/em>), and Rick Rubin (but of course), and Philly soul songwriter Linda Creed (who gave us \u201cYou Make Me Feel Brand New,\u201d case closed). Also getting inducted: Ed Sullivan, which is brilliant considering how he showed Elvis from the waist up. It\u2019d be Mr. Sullivan\u2019s worst nightmare to be remembered as a friend to rock &amp; roll, which he reluctantly was.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-line-height-copy  lrv-a-font-body-l   \">\n\tIt feels like a watershed moment for the Hall. It\u2019s reason for hope, after the fiasco of last year. The <a data-id=\"https:\/\/www.rollingstone.com\/music\/music-news\/rock-hall-of-fame-mariah-carey-phish-oasis-outkast-billy-idol-joy-division-1235264166\/\" data-type=\"link\" href=\"https:\/\/www.rollingstone.com\/music\/music-news\/rock-hall-of-fame-mariah-carey-phish-oasis-outkast-billy-idol-joy-division-1235264166\/\">2025 ballot<\/a> was the all-time nadir of the nominating committee, the shoddiest ballot ever, heavy on 1960s\/1970s D-list leftovers. (And yet still no Monkees, FFS \u2014 time to fix that.) There wasn\u2019t much the voters could do with a menu so lame. This year feels so different, it\u2019s enough to get your hopes up, even when you\u2019re fully aware that the Hall, like love, will tear us apart again.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-line-height-copy  lrv-a-font-body-l   \">\n\tKeep in mind: The main purpose of the Hall of Fame is to keep us arguing about it. That\u2019s what it\u2019s designed to do \u2014 making people mad is a feature of the Hall, not a bug. It began inducting artists in 1986, when there were already hundreds of worthy candidates, but they induct only a handful every year, since the event is a dinner, and so there\u2019s a firm ceiling on how many people you can invite, or dinner would drag on until breakfast. So it\u2019s a guaranteed argument-starter, and always will be \u2014 that\u2019s what it\u2019s there for. For all fans, part of why we love pop music is arguing over it, and that\u2019s why so many otherwise sane adults love frothing at the mouth about the Hall.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-line-height-copy  lrv-a-font-body-l   \">\n\tBut for years, the Hall had a bizarre phobia of post-1980 music, unless it was mega-platinum. Rock bands from that era were taboo, and especially the forbidden zone of English new wave. The Cure finally got elected in 2019, soon followed by Depeche Mode and Duran Duran. Even so, the Hall has kept holding out against Eighties\/Nineties rock. Case in point: the B-52s have never been nominated, not once. Pardon me for asking, but in what private Idaho are the B-52s not a universally beloved pop phenomenon? For a career with such staying power, impact, innovation, still dancing that mess around after nearly 50 years, it\u2019s a gigantic hole in the Hall\u2019s rusted tin roof. The same goes for the Pixies, one of the most influential bands ever from the American underground, inspiring Nirvana and all that followed. Never nominated. The Replacements? H\u00fcsker D\u00fc? Sonic Youth? Never nominated. The Smiths? Nominated once but ignored ever since. (Which is undeniably how we Smiths fans want it. Call us morbid, call us pale.)<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-line-height-copy  lrv-a-font-body-l   \">\n\tThe Nineties were the decade when rock bands were at an all-time peak in terms of popularity, cultural impact, commercial clout, and musical vitality. Yet it\u2019s the decade the Hall has ignored most aggressively. The Smashing Pumpkins, merely the era\u2019s biggest rock band? Never even nominated. Alanis Morissette, Fiona Apple, Hole, the Cranberries, No Doubt, all wildly famous, all eligible for years already, none nominated. Mind you, I\u2019m not even talking about my pet indie faves here. (Do you have any idea how painful it is for an obsessive Pavement freak to find myself sticking up for the Pumpkins? You think it\u2019s easy, but you\u2019re wrong.)<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-line-height-copy  lrv-a-font-body-l   \">\n\tPhish won the fan vote last year \u2014 ran away with it, actually. Everybody expected them to be a shoo-in, yet this year they got mysteriously axed from the ballot. With this year\u2019s nominees, the Hall threw a random assortment of 2000s pop figures into the mix \u2014 but they can\u2019t keep fast-forwarding over Gen X. Every year, the Hall\u2019s refusal to reckon with the Nineties is like <em>raaaaain<\/em> on our weddin\u2019 day.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-line-height-copy  lrv-a-font-body-l   \">\n\tSo this year\u2019s Hall roster feels like a real historic turning point. Instead of the usual bottom-feeder Sixties\/Seventies also-rans, it\u2019s an entire class full of post-1980 legends. And it\u2019s about time.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-line-height-copy  lrv-a-font-body-l   \">\n\tJoy Division\/New Order are the tip of a very cool iceberg. The Wu-Tang Clan \u2014 I\u2019d vote for each of them individually, even though it would take a dozen ballots. Luther Vandross finally breezed in on the first try, a giant of American music, such a legend that Cher accidentally <a href=\"https:\/\/www.rollingstone.com\/music\/music-news\/cher-lifetime-achievement-award-2026-grammy-awards-1235509452\/\" data-type=\"link\" data-id=\"https:\/\/www.rollingstone.com\/music\/music-news\/cher-lifetime-achievement-award-2026-grammy-awards-1235509452\/\">gave him a Grammy<\/a> this year. Iron Maiden, finally sneaking Eddie past the Hall\u2019s metal block. Oasis, finally making it on the basis of their charming personalities.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-line-height-copy  lrv-a-font-body-l   \">\n\tI\u2019ve voted for Sade so many times, it\u2019s gratifying to see her finally make it, with her one-of-a-kind career, a New Romantic sensation who started in the post-Bowie London new wave scene, then pulled off the delicate feat of crossing over to American R&amp;B, without changing her sound at all. Billy Idol is an eternal sleaze fave who led the NYC air-quality campaign with the slogan <a rel=\"noreferrer noopener nofollow\" data-id=\"youtube.com\/watch?v=tubKQwYuxeE\" target=\"_blank\" data-type=\"link\" href=\"https:\/\/youtube.com\/watch?v=tubKQwYuxeE\">\u201cBilly Never Idles,\u201d<\/a> inspiring <em>Rolling Stone<\/em> to <a href=\"https:\/\/www.rollingstone.com\/music\/music-news\/billy-idol-billy-never-idles-959526\/\" data-type=\"link\" data-id=\"https:\/\/www.rollingstone.com\/music\/music-news\/billy-idol-billy-never-idles-959526\/\">call him<\/a> \u201cthe Greta Thunberg of parking violations.\u201d<\/p>\n<section class=\"brands-most-popular \/\/ recirculation-modules trending-in-article lrv-u-margin-tb-2 lrv-u-border-a-2 u-box-shadow-5-5 lrv-u-padding-lr-1 a-span1 u-padding-b-1@tablet u-overflow-hidden\">\n<h2 id=\"section-heading\" class=\"c-heading larva  lrv-u-text-align-center u-border-color-black a-font-theme-primary-xxs lrv-u-color-black lrv-u-text-transform-uppercase u-letter-spacing-0063 lrv-u-padding-t-050 u-padding-b-0375@tablet lrv-u-padding-b-050@mobile-max lrv-u-border-b-2\">\n<p>\t\tTrending Stories<\/p>\n<\/h2>\n<\/section>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-line-height-copy  lrv-a-font-body-l   \">\n\tAs for Phil Collins, he deserves it just for that perfect <a rel=\"noreferrer noopener nofollow\" data-id=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=YkADj0TPrJA\" target=\"_blank\" data-type=\"link\" href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=YkADj0TPrJA\">\u201cIn the Air Tonight\u201d<\/a> solo \u2014 ba-doom, ba-doom, ba-doom, ba-doom-boom-boom \u2014 the funniest drum solo that everyone can sing. Honestly, though, I\u2019m an even bigger fan of the eight-bang solo in <a rel=\"noreferrer noopener nofollow\" data-id=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=wuvtoyVi7vY\" target=\"_blank\" data-type=\"link\" href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=wuvtoyVi7vY\">\u201cAgainst All Odds\u201d<\/a> \u2014 boom-BAP-boom, ba-da-DOOM-ba-doom \u2014 but why quibble?<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-line-height-copy  lrv-a-font-body-l   \">\n\tNo doubt about it \u2014 this is a moment that feels like a hopeful new direction for the Hall of Fame. Neither Joy Division nor New Order have ever been the kind of band that inspires optimism, but the temptation beckons nonetheless. After years as the Hall\u2019s most controversial omission, one that symbolizes an entire era closed off, it\u2019s glad tidings that the beloved Manchester miserabilists are finally getting in. Now we can all move on to arguing over Scritti Politti or Haysi Fantayzee or Kajagoogoo instead. But make no mistake \u2014 we\u2019ll all keep arguing over the Hall of Fame. That\u2019s why we need it.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<p><br \/>\n<br \/><a href=\"https:\/\/www.rollingstone.com\/music\/music-features\/joy-division-new-order-hall-of-fame-finally-1235545058\/\">Source link <\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Up, down, turn around, please don\u2019t let me hit the ground. 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