{"id":68784,"date":"2026-07-17T19:45:44","date_gmt":"2026-07-17T19:45:44","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/musicianvoice.com\/index.php\/2026\/07\/17\/what-really-killed-hair-metal-veteran-rock-producer-weighs-in\/"},"modified":"2026-07-17T19:45:44","modified_gmt":"2026-07-17T19:45:44","slug":"what-really-killed-hair-metal-veteran-rock-producer-weighs-in","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/musicianvoice.com\/index.php\/2026\/07\/17\/what-really-killed-hair-metal-veteran-rock-producer-weighs-in\/","title":{"rendered":"What REALLY Killed Hair Metal? Veteran Rock Producer Weighs In"},"content":{"rendered":"


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Did grunge<\/a>\u00a0really<\/em> kill hair metal<\/a>? The answer isn’t as\u00a0cut-and-dry as you’ve been led to believe, according to veteran rock producer Howard Benson<\/a>.<\/p>\n

In an exclusive interview with Loudwire, Benson details some of the vast changes the music industry has undergone since the big-money days of the ’80s and ’90s \u2014 some for better, some for worse. He also explains how, as the co-founder of his own label, Judge & Jury Records<\/a>, he’s able to give his artists much more equitable deals and help them make hits for a fraction of the food budget bands used to command.<\/p>\n

The current climate of the music industry\u00a0offers its own set of challenges, but Benson’s decades worth of experience\u00a0underscores that previous eras have been upended as well.\u00a0Including a little nugget about hair metal’s downfall you may not have been aware of.<\/p>\n

How Nielsen SoundScan Helped Kill Hair Metal<\/h3>\n

Before working on\u00a0smash hits\u00a0for the likes of My Chemical Romance<\/a>, Hoobastank<\/a>, Three Days Grace<\/a>, Halestorm<\/a> and Daughtry<\/a>, Benson\u00a0made inroads in the late-’80s hard rock scene by producing\u00a0Bang Tango’s\u00a0Psycho Cafe<\/em> and Pretty Boy Floyd’s\u00a0Leather Boyz With Electric Toyz<\/em>. Both 1989 debuts performed respectably, but multi-platinum success eluded the glam metal latecomers as the scene was already on its way out.<\/p>\n

“I got into the music business about two years too late,” Benson tells Loudwire. “That era, the hair band era, had started with, almost, Guns N’ Roses<\/a> \u2014 you can say 1986, around then, and it peaked in 1991 with the birth of Nirvana<\/a>. That\u2019s what killed it, pretty much. So I really had my first real record with Bang Tango. That was about 1989, 1990. And then after that, the Pretty Boy Floyds and the Little Caesars and Child’s Play, all those bands, they were sort of already over. That sound was history, but we didn’t really know it yet.”<\/p>\n

The glam metal scene’s seemingly overnight\u00a0extinction\u00a0upon\u00a0the advent of the Seattle sound (colloquially known as grunge) and the release of Nirvana’s Nevermind<\/em>\u00a0has been endlessly documented. But Benson points to one other major factor that helped\u00a0put\u00a0the\u00a0spandex-clad, big-haired rockers six feet under: Nielsen SoundScan.<\/p>\n

READ MORE: The Best Album by 11 Legendary Hair Metal Bands<\/a><\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n

Introduced in 1991, SoundScan collected album sales data from barcode scans at participating businesses. It\u00a0replaced\u00a0Billboard<\/i>‘s\u00a0old method of calling record stores across the United States, making for more accurate tallies that were less prone to error or fraud. This, Benson explains, led to major chart shakeups that\u00a0upended the conventional wisdom about what was popular at the turn of the decade.<\/p>\n

“People don’t really equate those two events happening, but SoundScan showed you what we were really selling,” Benson says. “And before that, you faked the numbers. Everybody faked them. Not me, I didn’t work at a record company. But Columbia would walk into Tower [Records] and say, “Okay, I’m going to give you 50 free Bon Jovi<\/a> records and you’re going to say we sold 100 Bon Jovi records,\u201d and the clerk would say, ‘Okay.'”<\/p>\n

Once SoundScan implemented its barcode-scanning system, other artists emerged as frontrunners \u2014 and not just\u00a0rock bands. “I remember the week it came in that the\u00a0No. 1\u00a0record was something nobody had ever heard of, a guy named Garth Brooks<\/a>,” Benson recalls. “And all of a sudden, all the hair bands were at the bottom of the chart and we thought they were all at the top of the chart. So of course, the record company stopped signing them almost the next week. And then Nirvana. All of this stuff happened at once.”<\/p>\n

READ MORE: The History of Grunge Told in 13 Albums<\/a><\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n

Why Howard Benson Is ‘Kind of Glad’ the Old Record Industry Is Gone<\/h3>\n

In 2021, Benson co-founded Judge & Jury Records with Three Days Grace drummer\u00a0Neil Sanderson<\/a>. Their goal is to give artists greater creative freedom and more mutually beneficial deals than in the halcyon days of the music industry, when money was flying everywhere but artists had little say in how it got spent.<\/p>\n

“Our budgets\u00a0were\u00a0$300,000, $400,000 every record \u2014 and that was considered cheap, believe it or not,” Benson says. “The computers changed everything and made it a completely different business. I mean, God, dinners for an entire project would cost like 30,000 bucks and the bands expected it. If the bands didn’t have a food budget, they would freak out. The lawyers jump on the phone and stuff. You could master [an album] seven times.”<\/p>\n

Nowadays, a Judge & Jury artist\u00a0can record an entire album for the same price as one of those dizzying food budgets of yesteryear and they’ll split the profits 50-50 with the label (an unprecedented move back in the day). Benson says this setup incentivizes both artist and label to make\u00a0the best music possible. And even as the mp3 and streaming eras have cannibalized the profits of the record industry, there’s still money to be made when the collaborations are successful.<\/p>\n

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READ MORE:<\/strong>\u00a0How Three Days Grace Made the Best Rock Album of 2025 (Interview)<\/a><\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n

“I remember a guy over at Interscope told me they mastered the No Doubt<\/a> record like 20 times,” Benson recalls. “And now, of course, after the mp3, we really have realized that none of that mattered because people didn’t give a shit whether it was an\u00a0mp3 or a wav file or any of that. It was this big comeuppance for all of other technical guys.”<\/p>\n

It’s common for music industry professionals to bemoan the loss of the old ways, but Benson has a different perspective. “I’m kind of glad it happened. Actually, it made the songs more important,” he argues. “In the production process, you’re not worrying too much about, ‘Is it this guitar or that guitar? Is it 48kHz or 44.1 kHz?’ Nobody cares. Are you speaking to somebody or not? Are you delivering this emotion?”<\/p>\n

“I think great records\u00a0are when you get it all right, when you pull it all off,” Benson continues. “But you can still have the record company be happy by having hits that cost you 1,000 bucks.”<\/p>\n

See how these other famous producers got their start in bands of their own:
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Bands 27 Big Music Producers Were In Before and After Switching Careers<\/h2>\n
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Before they were name producers (and sometimes while), they had bands and performing careers of their own.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n

Gallery Credit: Rob Carroll<\/a><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n