{"id":76572,"date":"2026-11-06T14:53:37","date_gmt":"2026-11-06T14:53:37","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/musicianvoice.com\/index.php\/2026\/11\/06\/tom-pettys-heartbreakers-interview-new-box-set-reunion\/"},"modified":"2026-11-06T14:53:37","modified_gmt":"2026-11-06T14:53:37","slug":"tom-pettys-heartbreakers-interview-new-box-set-reunion","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/musicianvoice.com\/index.php\/2026\/11\/06\/tom-pettys-heartbreakers-interview-new-box-set-reunion\/","title":{"rendered":"Tom Petty&#8217;s Heartbreakers Interview: New Box Set, Reunion"},"content":{"rendered":"<p> <br \/>\n<\/p>\n<div>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-line-height-copy  lrv-a-font-body-l   \">\n\tWhen the history of <a href=\"https:\/\/www.rollingstone.com\/t\/tom-petty-and-the-heartbreakers\/\" id=\"auto-tag_tom-petty-and-the-heartbreakers\" data-tag=\"tom-petty-and-the-heartbreakers\">Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers<\/a> is told, their third LP, 1979\u2019s <em>Damn the Torpedoes<\/em>, is often characterized as the breakthrough that forever changed their fortunes. And while there\u2019s quite a bit of truth to that, it obscures the fact that it was preceded by two stellar albums, several of their most beloved singles, and nonstop touring that earned them a big fan base in the U.K. and America. Prior to all that, Petty recorded a lot of music with his early band Mudcrutch and during an aborted solo career that followed in the immediate aftermath of their implosion, even though very little of it was actually released.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-line-height-copy  lrv-a-font-body-l   \">\n\tThis fascinating era is finally getting the love it deserves in the revelatory Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers box set <em>Origins 1971-1978<\/em>, which arrives Nov. 6. It includes several Mudcrutch recordings, songs Petty created with Al Kooper, Leon Russell, Jim Jordan, and Emory Gordon shortly before the Heartbreakers came together in late 1975, remastered editions of 1976\u2019s <em>Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers <\/em>and 1978\u2019s <em>You\u2019re Gonna Get It!<\/em>, studio outtakes, a complete concert they played at the Record Plant in 1977, and their performance on BBC\u2019s <em>Old Grey Whistle Test<\/em> in 1978.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-line-height-copy  lrv-a-font-body-l   \">\n\tTo chat about these formative years for Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers, we hopped on Zoom with bassist <a href=\"https:\/\/www.rollingstone.com\/t\/ron-blair\/\" id=\"auto-tag_ron-blair\" data-tag=\"ron-blair\">Ron Blair<\/a> and keyboardist <a href=\"https:\/\/www.rollingstone.com\/t\/benmont-tench\/\" id=\"auto-tag_benmont-tench\" data-tag=\"benmont-tench\">Benmont Tench<\/a>. The conversation covers the early days of Mudcrutch, the formation of the Heartbreakers, the creation of \u201cAmerican Girl,\u201d the endless slog of their early touring, Blair\u2019s return to the band in 2002 after a two-decade hiatus, the band\u2019s recent performance with Chris Stapleton at the 2026 Americana Honors, and the possibility of future reunions.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-line-height-copy  lrv-a-font-body-l   \">\n\t<strong>Ron, you obviously weren\u2019t in Mudcrutch. When do you recall first coming across them?<\/strong><br \/><strong>Blair:<\/strong> I went to Gainesville my second year of college, and the town kind of freaked me out. It was 1968, I think, when I got there. It was just this hippie town, like what I saw on TV of San Francisco. And my dad was in the military. I\u2019d been in Japan for three years. I was in culture shock, and Gainesville just freaked me out. The alligators and the swamp and the flatness of it. And there were a million musicians.<\/p>\n<section class=\"brands-most-popular \/\/ editors-pick-module lrv-u-margin-tb-2 lrv-u-border-a-2 u-box-shadow-5-5 lrv-u-padding-lr-1 a-span1 u-padding-b-1@tablet u-overflow-hidden\">\n<h2 id=\"section-heading\" class=\"c-heading larva  lrv-u-text-align-center u-border-color-black a-font-theme-primary-xxs lrv-u-color-black lrv-u-text-transform-uppercase u-letter-spacing-0063 lrv-u-padding-t-050 u-padding-b-0375@tablet lrv-u-padding-b-050@mobile-max lrv-u-border-b-2\">\n<p>\t\tEditor\u2019s picks<\/p>\n<\/h2>\n<\/section>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-line-height-copy  lrv-a-font-body-l   \">\n\tSo, eventually I joined a band that needed a bass player called RGF. We started playing around, and we would do some of the same gigs that Mudcrutch would do. I would also just see them around town at different places. There was a university club called the Rathskeller and I saw them play there one time. It was very intriguing. I just thought they were a really mysterious band.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-line-height-copy  lrv-a-font-body-l   \">\n\tNot only did I not understand Gainesville, but I did not understand this band Mudcrutch. They were bluesy, they were country, they were eclectic, and I just couldn\u2019t peg them. And Ben probably knows what I\u2019m talking about. It just was so unusual. I was really intrigued by them. Then I grew to like them. I met Tom through a girlfriend I had who knew Tom\u2019s wife. So I kind of became friends with Tom as well as an admirer of their band.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-line-height-copy  lrv-a-font-body-l   \">\n\t<strong>Benmont, let\u2019s jump forward a bit. When Mudcrutch got to L.A. in 1974, I imagine you presumed you\u2019d have a similar story to Buffalo Springfield or the Byrds by playing at the famous clubs on the Sunset Strip and signing with a major label. That\u2019s not what happened.<\/strong><br \/><strong>Tench:<\/strong> That was kind of the pipe dream, but I don\u2019t think we ever articulated it. Ron is right. When I first saw Mudcrutch\u2026 I just saw somebody on Instagram using the shorthand that they were a \u201cSouthern rock band.\u201d And no, not at all. It was semi-psychedelic, country, some Grateful Dead in there, a little bit of old rock &amp; roll, some original stuff, all these interweaving wild, beautiful things. They were kind of indescribable. And so I fell in love with them. Then I got to join them.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-line-height-copy  lrv-a-font-body-l   \">\n\tWhen we got to L.A., we thought, \u201cWell, it\u2019s the Promised Land.\u201d You either go to New York City and starve in the cold or you go to California and starve in the sunshine, the site of the Byrds and everybody. That was out west. We were like, \u201cLet\u2019s go there.\u201d<\/p>\n<section class=\"brands-most-popular \/\/ recirculation-modules lrv-u-margin-tb-2 lrv-u-border-a-2 u-box-shadow-5-5 lrv-u-padding-lr-1 a-span1 u-padding-b-1@tablet u-overflow-hidden\">\n<h2 id=\"section-heading\" class=\"c-heading larva  lrv-u-text-align-center u-border-color-black a-font-theme-primary-xxs lrv-u-color-black lrv-u-text-transform-uppercase u-letter-spacing-0063 lrv-u-padding-t-050 u-padding-b-0375@tablet lrv-u-padding-b-050@mobile-max lrv-u-border-b-2\">\n<p>\t\tRelated Content<\/p>\n<\/h2>\n<\/section>\n<figure class=\"wp-block-embed is-type-video is-provider-youtube wp-block-embed-youtube\">\n<p>\n<span class=\"embed-youtube\" style=\"text-align:center; display: block;\"><iframe loading=\"lazy\" title=\"Up in Mississippi Tonight (2015 Remaster)\" width=\"1200\" height=\"900\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/DB-Nb9j1gDc?feature=oembed\" frameborder=\"0\" allow=\"accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share\" referrerpolicy=\"strict-origin-when-cross-origin\" allowfullscreen><\/iframe><\/span>\n<\/p>\n<\/figure>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-line-height-copy  lrv-a-font-body-l   \">\n\t<strong>Tom said that he literally picked up a phone book and started calling record companies when he arrived. That didn\u2019t go like he hoped.<\/strong><br \/><strong>Tench:<\/strong> No, but he did get heard. I think the best feedback they got was from Playboy Records. And it was somebody who was A&amp;R there, but was also, I think, a jazz critic, who said, \u201cYou got something, but you really have to work on your songs.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-line-height-copy  lrv-a-font-body-l   \">\n\tAnd then the second trip out, he opened the phone book, met with a lot of people, and they said, \u201cThis is really distinctive.\u201d Only one company wanted to sign us, London, and they wanted us to support ourselves by playing Top 40 songs in a bowling alley. We were like, \u201cIf that\u2019s what it takes\u2026\u201d But, man, we were disheartened. We didn\u2019t play Top 40, ever.<\/p>\n<figure class=\"wp-block-embed is-type-video is-provider-youtube wp-block-embed-youtube\">\n<p>\n<span class=\"embed-youtube\" style=\"text-align:center; display: block;\"><iframe loading=\"lazy\" title=\"Depot Street by Mudcrutch\" width=\"1200\" height=\"900\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/wHPe2yPAQYY?feature=oembed\" frameborder=\"0\" allow=\"accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share\" referrerpolicy=\"strict-origin-when-cross-origin\" allowfullscreen><\/iframe><\/span>\n<\/p>\n<\/figure>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-line-height-copy  lrv-a-font-body-l   \">\n\t<strong>There\u2019s a lot of really interesting Mudcrutch studio tracks on this box set. I didn\u2019t realize the band had recorded so many songs. It\u2019s fascinating to imagine what an actual Mudcrutch record could have sounded like if you\u2019d kept going back then.<\/strong><br \/><strong>Tench:<\/strong> If you had gone through all the best stuff and focused on Tom\u2019s songs\u2026because I was writing songs that were all over the place and not that good. Danny Roberts was singing my songs because I was too shy. And Danny sang great Southern rock, but I was trying to write, God knows why, in the vein of Todd Rundgren and Steely Dan or something, and the blues-rock voice didn\u2019t work. If they had taken the kind of thing that\u2019s on this record, then you can see what a Mudcrutch record could have been.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-line-height-copy  lrv-a-font-body-l   \">\n\t<strong>So the band dissolves and Tom goes off to work with Leon Russell, Al Kooper, and all these other great people. Do you think this was an important period that really sharpened his writing?<\/strong><br \/><strong>Tench:<\/strong> Obviously. It was kind of an apprenticeship. And he got to explore different styles. He could hear different kinds of things and get immersed in different kinds of cultures. And it was also really important for me, too. I\u2019m like, \u201cUh-oh, my family just ditched me in Los Angeles, basically. I\u2019m on my own. My parents are helping, but I\u2019m on my own. I better get my shit together.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-line-height-copy  lrv-a-font-body-l   \">\n\tAnd so I worked really hard on playing better. I\u2019d go audition for bands, and in general, it just reinforced how good a songwriter Tom was and that there was something really special in Mudcrutch. The only character I met that resonated with me was a rockabilly guitar player with a high pompadour. And he came over to my apartment and we played, and I really dug it. But I didn\u2019t really want to focus on rockabilly, and it was [future X guitarist] Billy Zoom.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-line-height-copy  lrv-a-font-body-l   \">\n\tSo there was nothing there. When we got to actually put the Heartbreakers together, it was like hallelujah. I\u2019m back in the fold with the people with talent.<\/p>\n<figure class=\"wp-block-embed is-type-video is-provider-youtube wp-block-embed-youtube\">\n<p>\n<span class=\"embed-youtube\" style=\"text-align:center; display: block;\"><iframe loading=\"lazy\" title=\"Mystery Man\" width=\"1200\" height=\"900\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/vhaUbLCsFI0?feature=oembed\" frameborder=\"0\" allow=\"accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share\" referrerpolicy=\"strict-origin-when-cross-origin\" allowfullscreen><\/iframe><\/span>\n<\/p>\n<\/figure>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-line-height-copy  lrv-a-font-body-l   \">\n\t<strong>Ron, the first time you played with the Heartbreakers was that famous session that Benmont put together. Did you immediately feel the chemistry with everybody?<\/strong><br \/><strong>Blair: <\/strong>I remember it feeling really comfortable, and it was easy to concentrate on the things you should be concentrating on when you\u2019re in the studio: playing the song well, getting a decent tone out of your instrument, and joining in the camaraderie. It\u2019s a beautiful, communal effort, which happens less and less. Now, you get one or two players together, and then the other two send you files and everything. But it was back in the day when you\u2019d round everybody up, and it was analog tape, and you\u2019d pretty much get the good takes early on without having to slave over it.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-line-height-copy  lrv-a-font-body-l   \">\n\tI talk a lot about that track \u201cMystery Man,\u201d how it just unfolded before we knew it. We had cut it, and it was just, \u201cWow, we can do that without even trying?\u201d It still blows my mind. I\u2019m still trying to do that. It\u2019s like your first shot of a good tequila. You\u2019re always looking for that taste again, which I had to quit. But I\u2019m still looking for that incredible magic when you get a group of people together and you just hit on something for long enough to call it a recording.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-line-height-copy  lrv-a-font-body-l   \">\n\t<strong>Benmont, most people don\u2019t realize that, at least for the first day, this was your band. You put everyone together, including Tom.<\/strong><br \/><strong>Tench: <\/strong>Well, it was me and [drummer] Stan [Lynch], and it was Tim Kramer\u2019s band because he was my friend, a recording engineer who said, \u201cCome down and record, get some musicians.\u201d And I had met everybody between me and Stan. We got Mike, Ron, [guitarist] Jeff Jourard, Randall Marsh from Mudcrutch played on a couple things. But I didn\u2019t know Ron. I knew of Ron, but I didn\u2019t know Ron. So that was a really good surprise. It was like, \u201cOkay, Stan, you\u2019re right. This is the cast.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-line-height-copy  lrv-a-font-body-l   \">\n\tAnd it was fun, man. Everybody was from Gainesville. At last, we\u2019re all in a room, and we\u2019re all from the same place.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-line-height-copy  lrv-a-font-body-l   \">\n\t<strong>In <a rel=\"noreferrer noopener nofollow\" target=\"_blank\" href=\"https:\/\/encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com\/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQNYTGbOsCbQcC3RcDC-PWQtIpG0LaLxbHKTGMOt0WQYlt1lClWd59LVvI&amp;s=10\">early promo shots of the band,<\/a> Jeff Jourard is presented as a full member. How long did it take you guys to realize that there was one guitarist too many?<\/strong><br \/><strong>Blair:<\/strong> Relatively early on.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-line-height-copy  lrv-a-font-body-l   \">\n\t<strong>Tench:<\/strong> He was really good, Jeff Jourard. He\u2019s on three or four songs on the first record. He was really good, just one too many.<\/p>\n<figure class=\"wp-block-embed is-type-video is-provider-youtube wp-block-embed-youtube\">\n<p>\n<span class=\"embed-youtube\" style=\"text-align:center; display: block;\"><iframe loading=\"lazy\" title=\"American Girl - Tom Petty and The Heartbreakers | The Midnight Special\" width=\"1200\" height=\"675\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/1t4ygBn6NJM?feature=oembed\" frameborder=\"0\" allow=\"accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share\" referrerpolicy=\"strict-origin-when-cross-origin\" allowfullscreen><\/iframe><\/span>\n<\/p>\n<\/figure>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-line-height-copy  lrv-a-font-body-l   \">\n\t<strong>Ron, how well do you remember the moment you cut \u201cAmerican Girl\u201d on July 4, 1976? Is that frozen in your mind?<\/strong><br \/><strong>Blair: <\/strong>It gets more frozen every time I hear Mike talk about it because he said that that was the moment for him where it really became something. But I guess I thought that it was a really different song. At the time, I can\u2019t even think of another song that was similar, and it just sounded about as original as you can get. I thought, \u201cWow, we\u2019re an original band.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-line-height-copy  lrv-a-font-body-l   \">\n\tI had sort of given up on the thought of being in a fantastic original band at that time. I had been through so much crazy band drama. I just really wanted to play music with like-minded people. And I guess that song must have spurred something. \u201cWe\u2019re an American band. We\u2019re an original American band with all the possibilities laid out before us.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-line-height-copy  lrv-a-font-body-l   \">\n\t<strong>Ben, did you feel the same way?<\/strong><br \/><strong>Tench:<\/strong> Well, I loved what we were doing up to then, and I will name-check, like Ron, \u201cMystery Man,\u201d which I think is a gorgeous little record. But \u201cAmerican Girl,\u201d I don\u2019t know if Stan pointed it out to me at the time or Cordell or who. But it doesn\u2019t rhyme until you get to \u201cOh yeah, alright\/Take it easy baby\/Make it last all night.\u201d It just don\u2019t rhyme. Really cool song, unusual beat. And also, it did strike me that \u201c\u2018American Girl,\u2019 it\u2019s the Bicentennial. That\u2019s kind of interesting, neither here nor there.\u201d But it did make me focus and go, \u201cI wonder if anybody\u2019s ever going to notice this song?\u201d Because I thought it was great, but you never know.<\/p>\n<figure class=\"wp-block-embed is-type-video is-provider-youtube wp-block-embed-youtube\">\n<p>\n<span class=\"embed-youtube\" style=\"text-align:center; display: block;\"><iframe loading=\"lazy\" title=\"Tom Petty And The Heartbreakers - Anything That&amp;apos;s Rock &amp;apos;N&amp;apos; Roll - TOTP - Thursday 16th June 1977\" width=\"1200\" height=\"900\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/y0mYRnPXs2U?feature=oembed\" frameborder=\"0\" allow=\"accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share\" referrerpolicy=\"strict-origin-when-cross-origin\" allowfullscreen><\/iframe><\/span>\n<\/p>\n<\/figure>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-line-height-copy  lrv-a-font-body-l   \">\n\t<strong>I find it fascinating that despite all those great songs on the first record, including \u201cBreakdown,\u201d \u201cAmerican Girl,\u201d and \u201cFooled Again (I Don\u2019t Like It),\u201d the first song of yours that charted anywhere was \u201cAnything That\u2019s Rock \u2018N\u2019 Roll\u201d in the U.K. How did that happen?<\/strong><br \/><strong>Tench:<\/strong> The record companies must have thought that was a single, which is the last thing I would\u2019ve thought was a single. But it got us on <em>Top of the Pops<\/em>. Right, Ron?<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-line-height-copy  lrv-a-font-body-l   \">\n\t<strong>Blair:<\/strong> Right. Well, it just had that catchy kind of pop beat that I guess a record company would latch onto, like, \u201cHey, we could sell this. This will wake people up.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-line-height-copy  lrv-a-font-body-l   \">\n\t<strong>Tench:<\/strong> It was very pop, and England will go for the very pop. They\u2019ve always gone for the very, very pop.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-line-height-copy  lrv-a-font-body-l   \">\n\t<strong>You guys landed in England at the red-hot peak of the punk movement, where the Clash and Sex Pistols were playing every night. What was it like to be there at that moment?<\/strong><br \/><strong>Tench:<\/strong> Well, I went from feeling like a fish out of water in L.A. to feeling like a fish out of water in London. It was all the same thing.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-line-height-copy  lrv-a-font-body-l   \">\n\t<strong>Tom is wearing a leather jacket with bullets around his neck on the first album cover. It made a lot of people just presume you were a punk band.<\/strong><br \/><strong>Tench:<\/strong> I don\u2019t think it was his jacket. I think they gave it to him for a photo shoot along with the bullets.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-line-height-copy  lrv-a-font-body-l   \">\n\t<strong>Blair:<\/strong> Yeah, the bullets were not his.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-line-height-copy  lrv-a-font-body-l   \">\n\t<strong>Tench:<\/strong> It didn\u2019t feel like we looked or behaved at the time, but I like it. But the punk thing, it\u2019s just like we were younger. We were not wearing white satin pants and doing extremely long exhibitions of whatever prowess we had on our instruments. Which probably everybody else might have, but I\u2019m really good at faking it. So we weren\u2019t doing prog rock, and we weren\u2019t doing glam, and we were trying not to be overindulgent. We just wanted really good songs. So what we had in common with actual punk bands was short songs, getting to the point, good and catchy songs. I mean, you\u2019re not going to find a better body of songs than the Clash.<\/p>\n<figure class=\"wp-block-embed is-type-video is-provider-youtube wp-block-embed-youtube\">\n<p>\n<span class=\"embed-youtube\" style=\"text-align:center; display: block;\"><iframe loading=\"lazy\" title=\"Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers - Fooled Again (I Don&amp;apos;t Like It) [live 1976]\" width=\"1200\" height=\"900\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/HTaMRYRvZG4?feature=oembed\" frameborder=\"0\" allow=\"accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share\" referrerpolicy=\"strict-origin-when-cross-origin\" allowfullscreen><\/iframe><\/span>\n<\/p>\n<\/figure>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-line-height-copy  lrv-a-font-body-l   \">\n\t<strong>What was it like to open for Al Kooper at those very early shows and see nothing but blank faces who had no clue who you were?<\/strong><br \/><strong>Blair: <\/strong>It was just what you said. We even had an A&amp;R man from ABC Records come back and hand us a stack of records, and I reached out and grabbed them. He said, \u201cHere, here you go, man. We can\u2019t give these away.\u201d I said, \u201cWell, I\u2019ll take them.\u201d They were promo copies.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-line-height-copy  lrv-a-font-body-l   \">\n\t<strong>Did you grow as a band during times like that, since you had to learn to win over crowds night after night?<\/strong><br \/><strong>Blair: <\/strong>At that time, it must not have mattered because we\u2019d travel all day. God, some days we\u2019d be in five different kinds of vehicles, a helicopter, an airboat or whatever. But by the time you get a chance to play and the gear is pulled out of a truck and set up onstage, you\u2019re just pretty happy to play and make some music, and you\u2019re not really calculating the intake at the door or whatever. It\u2019s just another whistle-stop along a long track.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-line-height-copy  lrv-a-font-body-l   \">\n\t<strong>Ben, what was it like for you?<\/strong><br \/><strong>Tench:<\/strong> I was lucky. I was hiding behind an actual grand piano and the big old Hammond C3 organ. I didn\u2019t have to face the people as much. But I figured Tom was gauging all of that stuff as far as the reaction. We all just wanted to be as great as we could. We wanted to be such a good band that we would completely blow them away. But like Ron said, we\u2019re actually traveling around, whether it\u2019s England or the Midwest. What are we here to do? We\u2019re here to play.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-line-height-copy  lrv-a-font-body-l   \">\n\tSo you\u2019d get at the end of an actual eight, 10, 12 hours on a freezing day in a van and pull up outside the Exit\/In in Nashville and go in and straight onto the stage, and you just play. And so there\u2019s 12 people there. I remember we played that gig in Boston that got taped, the one at Paul\u2019s Mall. There were far more people between our band and Al Kooper\u2019s band, far more people on the stage than there were in the audience. Didn\u2019t matter, really. Technically, yeah, of course it matters. You want to play to enough people that they want you back, and you want to make an impression, a connection. But it didn\u2019t matter as far as how we played.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-line-height-copy  lrv-a-font-body-l   \">\n\t<strong>What was it like when you opened for Kiss?<\/strong><br \/><strong>Tench:<\/strong> We played at Hot Nights in the South, a tiny club in Palm Beach, Florida, with peanut shells instead of sawdust on the floor. And then there was the chance to open for Kiss in a basketball arena. So we went from Hot Nights in the South to opening for Kiss in a basketball arena. And the rumor around was that the opening act was going to be Boston, which had a giant hit since \u201cMore Than a Feeling\u201d had just come out. And we weren\u2019t Boston. But we got to see Kiss without their makeup before anybody else did, so it was cool. Then we went back to a really tiny club, probably in Cocoa Beach, Florida, or something, George\u2019s Steak House.<\/p>\n<figure class=\"wp-block-embed is-type-video is-provider-youtube wp-block-embed-youtube\">\n<p>\n<span class=\"embed-youtube\" style=\"text-align:center; display: block;\"><iframe loading=\"lazy\" title=\"You&amp;apos;re Gonna Get It\" width=\"1200\" height=\"900\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/CXcKr51eBMc?feature=oembed\" frameborder=\"0\" allow=\"accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share\" referrerpolicy=\"strict-origin-when-cross-origin\" allowfullscreen><\/iframe><\/span>\n<\/p>\n<\/figure>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-line-height-copy  lrv-a-font-body-l   \">\n\t<strong>Tom often said that the second record was made too quickly and it suffered as a result. Is that how you see it?<\/strong><br \/><strong>Tench: <\/strong>Yeah. I mean, it\u2019s the second record. That\u2019s how they usually are. You have time to stockpile songs before the first one. The second one is, \u201cCome on, get some songs.\u201d But by the time we were playing in England, at least certainly by the time we stuck around and played as a headliner after opening for Nils Lofgren, Tom had written \u201cListen to Your Heart\u201d and \u201cI Need to Know,\u201d I think. So we were going out and playing those cold to an audience, and you couldn\u2019t get them on the record yet. So he had a couple in his pocket. But a bunch of it, yeah, we kind of made up on the spot.<\/p>\n<figure class=\"wp-block-embed is-type-video is-provider-youtube wp-block-embed-youtube\">\n<p>\n<span class=\"embed-youtube\" style=\"text-align:center; display: block;\"><iframe loading=\"lazy\" title=\"Magnolia\" width=\"1200\" height=\"900\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/hUoZRVhAieQ?feature=oembed\" frameborder=\"0\" allow=\"accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share\" referrerpolicy=\"strict-origin-when-cross-origin\" allowfullscreen><\/iframe><\/span>\n<\/p>\n<\/figure>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-line-height-copy  lrv-a-font-body-l   \">\n\t<strong>I love \u201cMagnolia\u201d and the title track. But most songs on that record, you dropped from your live repertoire right after the tour ended.<\/strong><br \/><strong>Tench:<\/strong> Yeah. Well, we would play \u201cToo Much Ain\u2019t Enough\u201d sometimes. But things like \u201cHurt\u201d didn\u2019t get much of an airing. \u201cMagnolia\u201d didn\u2019t get much of an airing. I think we played it once because Peter Bogdanovich loved it. We played it much later, but I don\u2019t think we played it much. \u201cYou\u2019re Gonna Get It,\u201d we used to play that song.<\/p>\n<figure class=\"wp-block-embed is-type-video is-provider-youtube wp-block-embed-youtube\">\n<p>\n<span class=\"embed-youtube\" style=\"text-align:center; display: block;\"><iframe loading=\"lazy\" title=\"Genesis - Live in Knebworth - June 24th, 1978\" width=\"1200\" height=\"675\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/qkBGrPvrMXE?feature=oembed\" frameborder=\"0\" allow=\"accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share\" referrerpolicy=\"strict-origin-when-cross-origin\" allowfullscreen><\/iframe><\/span>\n<\/p>\n<\/figure>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-line-height-copy  lrv-a-font-body-l   \">\n\t<strong>You guys played Knebworth with Genesis, Devo, and Jefferson Starship in 1978. The audience was just an ocean of people. What\u2019s your memory of that day?<\/strong><br \/><strong>Blair: <\/strong>Oh, it was a pop festival, 300,000 people or something, the biggest gig we ever played, and it was overwhelming. Did we come back and the Kinks were headlining? Was that another trip to Knebworth or was it that first time?<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-line-height-copy  lrv-a-font-body-l   \">\n\t<strong>Tench:<\/strong> I don\u2019t remember. I remember we were on fairly early in the day. I remember that we needed to be good, and I think we were good. But we came out and we would open with \u201cListen to Her Heart,\u201d which starts with the guitars, and then the organ comes in. I\u2019m like, \u201cHot damn, this is really killer.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-line-height-copy  lrv-a-font-body-l   \">\n\tAnd I hit the first chord on the organ, and because of the discrepancy in voltage and the fact that somebody hadn\u2019t put the right converter on it, it\u2019s way out of tune with the rest of the band. I\u2019m like, \u201cOh, fuck.\u201d So it was kind of fun. I had to play the whole show on the piano, couldn\u2019t play the organ. What I mainly remember is the pressure and the size of the crowd.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-line-height-copy  lrv-a-font-body-l   \">\n\t<strong>The break with producer and Shelter Records owner Denny Cordell came around this time. Tom always said it was very painful since he played such an enormous role in the early days of the band. But he also said he was just a tiger when it came to business matters.<\/strong><br \/><strong>Blair:<\/strong> He had what happened to most of the Black artists and most of the jazz artists early on, where businessmen would get in there and sign people who don\u2019t have the skills of the business. They sign them, they take their publishing, they take all of the money. You end up signing something that you don\u2019t understand, and you may or may not have had a lawyer. And if you did have a lawyer, it\u2019s somebody that they set you up with. \u201cHere, go see this guy.\u201d And so you sign something that\u2019s basically giving away all your rights, and you don\u2019t even know what they are.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-line-height-copy  lrv-a-font-body-l   \">\n\t<strong>Tench:<\/strong> Tom and Denny were best friends. And at one point, I think Tom told me that Denny had said to him, \u201cHey, don\u2019t take it personally. It\u2019s just business.\u201d And Tom\u2019s like, \u201cI have a new child. It couldn\u2019t be more personal.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-line-height-copy  lrv-a-font-body-l   \">\n\tWhere I was, I thought it was really sad and awkward because, for the duration of Mudcrutch and then when the Heartbreakers got together, Cordell shepherded us along. And now it was like, \u201cWho am I going to side with?\u201d Well, obviously, for the justice of it, because he\u2019s my friend, Tom. But Cordell\u2019s presence was in that town. He opened that roller disco, Flippers, which was supposed to be a really fun club, though I didn\u2019t roller-skate and I didn\u2019t like disco. But I never went just out of solidarity with Tom because it was Cordell\u2019s.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-line-height-copy  lrv-a-font-body-l   \">\n\tBut they did make up, like, five or six years later. Cordell produced two songs on <em>Southern Accents<\/em> that didn\u2019t come out. And they were really, really good. One of them, \u201cThe Image of Me,\u201d is really good. Cordell came in, produced this, and we sounded like us. Again, I\u2019m like, \u201cHot damn.\u201d And then it was gone. But they did patch it up. Tom played him <em>Full Moon Fever,<\/em> and Cordell apparently was thrilled.<\/p>\n<figure class=\"wp-block-embed is-type-video is-provider-youtube wp-block-embed-youtube\">\n<p>\n<span class=\"embed-youtube\" style=\"text-align:center; display: block;\"><iframe loading=\"lazy\" title=\"Refugee\" width=\"1200\" height=\"900\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/YbWDV72oQlo?feature=oembed\" frameborder=\"0\" allow=\"accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share\" referrerpolicy=\"strict-origin-when-cross-origin\" allowfullscreen><\/iframe><\/span>\n<\/p>\n<\/figure>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-line-height-copy  lrv-a-font-body-l   \">\n\t<strong>Going into <em>Damn the Torpedoes,<\/em> did you feel extra pressure?<\/strong><br \/><strong>Blair: <\/strong>We were out on the road for so long that we ended up coming back to L.A. kind of shell-shocked from all these incredible bad-sounding gigs, like gigs that looked like they took place in a bathtub. And then you don\u2019t have much time to recalibrate your senses. And then you find yourself in a studio with people you don\u2019t really know. Jimmy Iovine and Shelly Yakus, who were really good at helping Tom find good songs. And to me, it was always a shock to come off the road right back into a studio. Like, \u201cOh, God. Don\u2019t we ever get a break? Can we get a break?\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-line-height-copy  lrv-a-font-body-l   \">\n\t<strong>Tench:<\/strong> The first couple records are us figuring out what we can do. And I guess the third record was with [producer] Jimmy [Iovine] and [engineer] Shelly [Yakus]. Maybe that\u2019s us doing it, but I sure like the sound of bands figuring out what they can do.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-line-height-copy  lrv-a-font-body-l   \">\n\t<strong>Yeah. There\u2019s a youthful spark that can\u2019t really be replicated.<\/strong><br \/><strong>Tench:<\/strong> You\u2019re figuring out how to make it sound good in the studio, but you\u2019re also figuring it out for us because we hadn\u2019t played a bunch of gigs in this exact lineup. And so I\u2019m figuring out how to play with Stan and Ron. It was really easy. And I\u2019m realizing if I listen to what Ron\u2019s doing and lean on that, I will never be without something to play. Hearing Tom come in with song after great song after great song, man. I was just trying to keep up with everybody else because they were all badasses. That\u2019s the best place to be, trying to keep up with everybody else.<\/p>\n<figure class=\"wp-block-embed is-type-video is-provider-youtube wp-block-embed-youtube\">\n<p>\n<span class=\"embed-youtube\" style=\"text-align:center; display: block;\"><iframe loading=\"lazy\" title=\"Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers - Live at the Olympic: The Last DJ (2002)\" width=\"1200\" height=\"675\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/yLl2_JIlKps?feature=oembed\" frameborder=\"0\" allow=\"accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share\" referrerpolicy=\"strict-origin-when-cross-origin\" allowfullscreen><\/iframe><\/span>\n<\/p>\n<\/figure>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-line-height-copy  lrv-a-font-body-l   \">\n\t<strong>To flash forward quite a bit here, Ron, you told me <a href=\"https:\/\/www.rollingstone.com\/music\/music-features\/heartbreakers-bassist-ron-blair-on-his-life-with-tom-petty-201582\/\">last time we spoke<\/a> that you had a lot of anxiety when you rejoined the band in 2002 after being gone for 20 years. You said it took you a while to get re-acclimated. Ben, how did you help him through that?<\/strong><br \/><strong>Tench: <\/strong>I didn\u2019t help him at all. He didn\u2019t need any help. It was just like when Howie left the band, or was forced to leave the band because \u2026 Howie was my best friend in the band at that time. We just wanted him to live. The first thing I thought was, \u201cWell, what the hell? Ron!\u201d And it took a minute before that happened.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-line-height-copy  lrv-a-font-body-l   \">\n\tI still saw Ron at Mike\u2019s house at parties and stuff. Ron never left. Ron and Mike stayed tight, as far as I could tell. So Ron was always on the horizon. I just never dreamed Ron would come back. But the second Ron showed up, it was like, I don\u2019t know how it felt for you, Ron, but it felt to me like this is right.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-line-height-copy  lrv-a-font-body-l   \">\n\tEven though it wasn\u2019t Stan, it was <a href=\"https:\/\/www.rollingstone.com\/music\/music-features\/steve-ferrone-interview-drummer-tom-petty-heartbreakers-1069570\/\">[Steve] Ferrone. <\/a>There was a different dynamic. Scott Thurston was also in the band, and it was a way different dynamic than it was when Ron left the band. And the things that counted, I just felt like, \u201cRon\u2019s here. Great!\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-line-height-copy  lrv-a-font-body-l   \">\n\t<strong>Blair:<\/strong> I had a really good attitude. My dad used to always tell me about my attitude, \u201cSon, you had a terrible attitude.\u201d And I think I must have. By that time, I just got my attitude together, and I just learned that stuff, and I just became the best team player you could be.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-line-height-copy  lrv-a-font-body-l   \">\n\tI started learning to watch out for the red-flag things, the things that send you down the wrong thought process and all that. So I just learned that stuff. I made it as seamless as I could. I wasn\u2019t going to blow this incredible chance. I still feel that way. Please, let me just be the best version of myself, whether it turns out that way or not. Just put in the effort and the prayers and have a little bit of luck and keep rolling on, baby.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-line-height-copy  lrv-a-font-body-l   \">\n\t<strong>Tench: <\/strong>I think you need to be my guru, Ben.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-line-height-copy  lrv-a-font-body-l   \">\n\t<strong>Blair:<\/strong> Oh, you guys were very kind to me. You\u2019d look at me and you go, \u201cWow.\u201d You said something to me one night. You said, \u201cDamn, you\u2019ve made this effortless.\u201d And later Tom would say in interviews that he didn\u2019t think he could have done it with an outsider. And it was just such a beautiful thing to have somebody come back into a situation that had learned from the past. I was real lucky.<\/p>\n<figure class=\"wp-block-embed is-type-video is-provider-youtube wp-block-embed-youtube\">\n<p>\n<span class=\"embed-youtube\" style=\"text-align:center; display: block;\"><iframe loading=\"lazy\" title=\"Chris Stapleton &amp; The Heartbreakers- &quot;Breakdown&quot; LIVE at the Ryman Auditorium | Americana Honors \" width=\"1200\" height=\"675\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/HaM7rlHHrUI?feature=oembed\" frameborder=\"0\" allow=\"accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share\" referrerpolicy=\"strict-origin-when-cross-origin\" allowfullscreen><\/iframe><\/span>\n<\/p>\n<\/figure>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-line-height-copy  lrv-a-font-body-l   \">\n\t<strong>You guys played with Chris Stapleton at the Ryman in Nashville recently. What was it like emotionally to have everyone back together for the first time since Tom died?<\/strong><br \/><strong>Tench: <\/strong>Pretty freaking cool.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-line-height-copy  lrv-a-font-body-l   \">\n\t<strong>Blair: <\/strong>It made me happy.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-line-height-copy  lrv-a-font-body-l   \">\n\t<strong>Tench: <\/strong>I wanted to do that forever. I wouldn\u2019t have been ready before that to play with everybody without Tom. But I know Chris Stapleton a little. I know he\u2019s a great interpreter for us, and Mike knows him really well. But for me, it\u2019s like to just have us have that emptier sound, Ron, Stan, me, and Mike and Chris singing. Because the more people you add, it changes, it gives you more possibilities. But it also takes up more space.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-line-height-copy  lrv-a-font-body-l   \">\n\tAnd the change of the drummer is a massive change of groove. Tom, he didn\u2019t tell Stanley to leave and then try to get an imitator of Stanley. He went for something entirely different, and he got it in a great version. But, man, on \u201cAmerican Girl,\u201d but especially on \u201cBreakdown,\u201d Stan hit that backbeat, and I hit the electric piano. And I looked over and I saw Ron, and I\u2019m like, \u201cI\u2019m home. What the heck? I\u2019m home.\u201d So bloody cool. That\u2019s no shade on Ferrone, and it\u2019s no shade on Scott Thurston.<\/p>\n<figure class=\"wp-block-embed is-type-video is-provider-youtube wp-block-embed-youtube\">\n<p>\n<span class=\"embed-youtube\" style=\"text-align:center; display: block;\"><iframe loading=\"lazy\" title=\"Chris Stapleton and the Heartbreakers perform \u201cAmerican Girl\u201d\" width=\"1200\" height=\"675\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/4FeLXf8WEDI?feature=oembed\" frameborder=\"0\" allow=\"accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share\" referrerpolicy=\"strict-origin-when-cross-origin\" allowfullscreen><\/iframe><\/span>\n<\/p>\n<\/figure>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-line-height-copy  lrv-a-font-body-l   \">\n\t<strong>Ron, what was it like for you to play with Stan for the first time since the Hall of Fame?<\/strong><br \/><strong>Blair: <\/strong>It was just awesome. I\u2019d always dreamed of it, and I\u2019d kind of given up that dream, like, \u201cOkay, maybe it won\u2019t happen, just move on.\u201d And when it did happen, it was just amazing. My favorite thing about it is playing with the precious few players that I play with who have an incredible groove. And when I\u2019m playing with Stan and I\u2019m playing with Ben, Ben doesn\u2019t allow me to move from the incredible pocket. If you listen to what Ben\u2019s doing, it just keeps you on the straight and narrow. If you listen to what Stan\u2019s doing, it keeps you on the straight and narrow.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-line-height-copy  lrv-a-font-body-l   \">\n\tThe excitement of a gig can kind of pull you into playing a little too fast or thinking about how I look or some stupid stuff. But when the groove is what you\u2019re serving, you\u2019re serving the right master. You just definitely are. And I was going, \u201cOh, I felt that light. I\u2019m in that light.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-line-height-copy  lrv-a-font-body-l   \">\n\t<strong>Are you guys open to playing together again at other special events?<\/strong><br \/><strong>Blair: <\/strong>Yeah.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-line-height-copy  lrv-a-font-body-l   \">\n\t<strong>Tench:<\/strong> I don\u2019t know.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-line-height-copy  lrv-a-font-body-l   \">\n\t<strong>Why?<\/strong><br \/><strong>Tench:<\/strong> It would have to be a band discussion. It was really special, but it\u2019s emotionally hard for me and musically hard for me to play without Tom. Because for a one-off, it\u2019s a really cool thing. But the way he played, let alone the way he sang and wrote and led the band, was so central. His guitar playing, and on a couple songs his piano playing, was so central to the sound we make and made that I don\u2019t know. I don\u2019t know.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-line-height-copy  lrv-a-font-body-l   \">\n\tI don\u2019t want to rain on anyone\u2019s parade because I had said never, never, never, never, never for a long time. I said, \u201cNo way.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-line-height-copy  lrv-a-font-body-l   \">\n\t<strong>A lot of people have fantasized about a big tribute concert with lots of guest singers.<\/strong><br \/><strong>Tench: <\/strong>I love that idea. But I don\u2019t want to be the house band. Well, maybe if you had some kind of one-off. It depends on how you curate it. But you also have to get all of us to agree on it. And I don\u2019t think there\u2019s anybody in the band that we would all follow blindly like we followed Tom. It doesn\u2019t mean we\u2019d fight. It means we all go like, \u201cYou\u2019re right. Okay. Or I have my doubts, but I believe you. And so I\u2019m going to come along and be happy.\u201d So I don\u2019t know.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-line-height-copy  lrv-a-font-body-l   \">\n\t<strong>Ron, what are your thoughts on all this?<\/strong><br \/><strong>Blair: <\/strong>Well, Ben just made me start thinking about something else. When you are in a band and you work for and you\u2019re part of a band with a Tom Petty, you don\u2019t realize what a fabulous force that is that keeps it on its track. And without Tom, it was a little bit of a surprise to me. I\u2019d pictured the band a little more rock-steady as a unit. I never thought about what if Tom was gone. But when he was gone, I went, \u201cOh my God, when you play with someone that great, you run the risk of if he\u2019s not there, it just kind of dissipates.\u201d I was surprised that that would happen.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-line-height-copy  lrv-a-font-body-l   \">\n\tAnd to tell you the truth, I still kind of feel him there. When we played, somebody else was singing, but it just feels like we\u2019re all serving the ghost or whatever. I just feel he\u2019s with us in a good way. And I don\u2019t even miss it because it\u2019s pointless to miss it, to miss him. I mean, I just enjoy \u2026 He set up something for us to do, and then it\u2019s a precious few times that we\u2019ll probably get a chance to practice this fine art. And so I just say yes, that it could happen because I\u2019m just a nutty, positive guy. But I don\u2019t know. I was shocked that it happened.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-line-height-copy  lrv-a-font-body-l   \">\n\t<strong>Tench:<\/strong> I\u2019m leery of tributes unless they\u2019re well done. But I\u2019ve been a part of a couple that were. The Band and Robbie [Robertson] a few years ago, and Willie Nelson\u2019s birthday for two nights at the Hollywood Bowl were really beautifully put together. So that\u2019s different. And we wouldn\u2019t do it unless we did it right.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-line-height-copy  lrv-a-font-body-l   \">\n\tIf it\u2019s the right thing, then I might be down for it. But it\u2019s got to be the right thing. I think probably the guys in Queen must have really missed playing together to put somebody else in and go out and tour. Yeah, it\u2019s a money-making proposition, but it\u2019s also really emotional.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-line-height-copy  lrv-a-font-body-l   \">\n\tI understand missing making that sound because, boy, did I get a lesson in that in Nashville. I understand why the Rolling Stones keep going and going and going. You make that sound, you got to make the closest thing to that sound you can. But I don\u2019t know. I don\u2019t know why I\u2019m leery. But if it\u2019s the right thing, if we come up with a good way to do it, that\u2019s a different matter entirely.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-line-height-copy  lrv-a-font-body-l   \">\n\t<strong>What\u2019s left in the vault that you hope to put on future box sets?<\/strong><br \/><strong>Tench: <\/strong>There\u2019s some other Mudcrutch stuff that I think is terrific that didn\u2019t make it on here. I don\u2019t know what there is left over from <em>Damn the Torpedoes<\/em> or <em>Hard Promises.<\/em> But I\u2019m sure there\u2019s stuff left over from some of the other records.<\/p>\n<figure class=\"wp-block-embed is-type-video is-provider-youtube wp-block-embed-youtube\">\n<p>\n<span class=\"embed-youtube\" style=\"text-align:center; display: block;\"><iframe loading=\"lazy\" title=\"Tom Petty And The Heartbreakers - The Image Of Me\" width=\"1200\" height=\"675\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/f-6HcumuDJg?feature=oembed\" frameborder=\"0\" allow=\"accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share\" referrerpolicy=\"strict-origin-when-cross-origin\" allowfullscreen><\/iframe><\/span>\n<\/p>\n<\/figure>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-line-height-copy  lrv-a-font-body-l   \">\n\t<strong>I would love an <em>Echo<\/em> box set.<\/strong><br \/><strong>Tench:<\/strong> Yeah, there might be some stuff left over from<em> Echo<\/em>. <em>Let Me Up, I\u2019ve Had Enough<\/em>, there\u2019s a ton of stuff. It\u2019s a split-personality record that has about half of it as the stuff that Mike was crafting by himself at home, and then he put us on it afterwards or not. And the other half is us live in the studio, having just played with Bob Dylan for two years, night after night, playing really loose and having a blast. And Tom, a lot of the time, is making the song up on the spot.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-line-height-copy  lrv-a-font-body-l   \">\n\tSo I think a <em>Let Me Up<\/em> box set\u2026 although I don\u2019t know if anybody would care. And also a<em> Southern Accents<\/em> that would be true to the original idea. Because you\u2019ve got \u201cTrailer,\u201d you\u2019ve got \u201cThe Image of Me\u201d that Denny Cordell produced. You\u2019ve got so many songs that would\u2019ve fit into that original concept of an album about the South.<\/p>\n<figure class=\"wp-block-embed is-type-video is-provider-youtube wp-block-embed-youtube\">\n<p>\n<span class=\"embed-youtube\" style=\"text-align:center; display: block;\"><iframe loading=\"lazy\" title=\"BOB DYLAN  live in Australia 1986  HARD TO HANDLE  w\/ Tom Petty &amp; The Heartbreakers\" width=\"1200\" height=\"900\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/c4BQOlThboA?feature=oembed\" frameborder=\"0\" allow=\"accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share\" referrerpolicy=\"strict-origin-when-cross-origin\" allowfullscreen><\/iframe><\/span>\n<\/p>\n<\/figure>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-line-height-copy  lrv-a-font-body-l   \">\n\t<strong>You mentioned the Bob Dylan tour. That would be a great package since there were so many shows, and you even filmed the one in Australia.<\/strong><br \/><strong>Tench: <\/strong>Yeah, a great director made a film of it. I think they re-edited it before they put it out. But there\u2019s a lot of stuff I think that was well recorded from that Australian thing. And while we stuck fairly close to the arrangements, it was great, and we had the great gospel choir.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-line-height-copy  lrv-a-font-body-l   \">\n\t<strong>I\u2019d love that as a Bootleg Series.<\/strong><br \/><strong>Tench: <\/strong>That\u2019s up to Bob. Maybe when he gets to Bootleg Series number 1,420.<\/p>\n<figure class=\"wp-block-embed is-type-video is-provider-youtube wp-block-embed-youtube\">\n<p>\n<span class=\"embed-youtube\" style=\"text-align:center; display: block;\"><iframe loading=\"lazy\" title=\"Tweeter &amp; The Monkey Man - Tom Petty &amp; The Heartbreakers\" width=\"1200\" height=\"675\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/2hpd5Cn38lE?feature=oembed\" frameborder=\"0\" allow=\"accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share\" referrerpolicy=\"strict-origin-when-cross-origin\" allowfullscreen><\/iframe><\/span>\n<\/p>\n<\/figure>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-line-height-copy  lrv-a-font-body-l   \">\n\t<strong>As far as live stuff, the 2013 shows at the Beacon and Henry Fonda theaters would make for a great package.<\/strong><br \/><strong>Tench:<\/strong> The Beacon especially. The Beacon\u2019s one of those stages like the Ryman. You\u2019re not going to play a bad show.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-line-height-copy  lrv-a-font-body-l   \">\n\t<strong>Are you working on a new solo record?<\/strong><br \/><strong>Tench:<\/strong> I think I\u2019m starting to write some stuff. You got to have something to write about. I\u2019ve been playing gigs, and I love it. Played one with a band, with some people that played on the record the other night, and that was a blast. But I\u2019ve also been playing by myself, which I really enjoy.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-line-height-copy  lrv-a-font-body-l   \">\n\t<strong>Ron, what\u2019s keeping you busy?<\/strong><br \/><strong>Blair: <\/strong>I\u2019m just entranced that Ben loves playing by himself. It kind of freaks me out, the thought of playing by myself. It\u2019s always a card you got to hold in your pocket, like what if the band or what if my partner doesn\u2019t show up by singing?<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-line-height-copy  lrv-a-font-body-l   \">\n\t<strong>Tench:<\/strong> Ron, if it\u2019s scary, you really got to do it.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-line-height-copy  lrv-a-font-body-l   \">\n\t<strong>Blair: <\/strong>Yeah. I\u2019ve got to do it. It freaks me out. I guess I\u2019m in the process of getting a group of songs together that I could call a record. But it always starts with some idea that I could go back to that. This is how this thing started, here\u2019s what it\u2019s about. And then here\u2019s the original guitar lick, and it\u2019s all there. And so I guess I should probably start thinking, use some of my positive thinking to picture that. But my hat\u2019s off to you, Ben. I just go, \u201cGod, you\u2019re brave, man. You get out there and you do it.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-line-height-copy  lrv-a-font-body-l   \">\n\t<strong>Tench:<\/strong> I read somewhere that the reason to do it is because it freaks you out. And it makes you live. If you aren\u2019t living when you\u2019re getting older, you ain\u2019t living anymore. If you aren\u2019t pushing yourself, you aren\u2019t living.<\/p>\n<figure class=\"wp-block-embed is-type-video is-provider-youtube wp-block-embed-youtube\">\n<p>\n<span class=\"embed-youtube\" style=\"text-align:center; display: block;\"><iframe loading=\"lazy\" title=\"Benmont Tench \/Mudcrutch \u2018Welcome to hell\u2019 09\/14\/2025\" width=\"1200\" height=\"675\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/XF5EvRH7UDA?feature=oembed\" frameborder=\"0\" allow=\"accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share\" referrerpolicy=\"strict-origin-when-cross-origin\" allowfullscreen><\/iframe><\/span>\n<\/p>\n<\/figure>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-line-height-copy  lrv-a-font-body-l   \">\n\t<strong>Do you guys ever think about writing memoirs?<\/strong><br \/><strong>Tench: <\/strong>No. Well, I\u2019ve spent so much of my life drunk. I don\u2019t know that I remember anything accurately. Somebody asked me the other day, I said, \u201cMy book is going to be called <em>You Had to Be There<\/em>. You can open it up. It\u2019s 270 pages long, and they\u2019re all blank.\u201d<\/p>\n<section class=\"brands-most-popular \/\/ recirculation-modules trending-in-article lrv-u-margin-tb-2 lrv-u-border-a-2 u-box-shadow-5-5 lrv-u-padding-lr-1 a-span1 u-padding-b-1@tablet u-overflow-hidden\">\n<h2 id=\"section-heading\" class=\"c-heading larva  lrv-u-text-align-center u-border-color-black a-font-theme-primary-xxs lrv-u-color-black lrv-u-text-transform-uppercase u-letter-spacing-0063 lrv-u-padding-t-050 u-padding-b-0375@tablet lrv-u-padding-b-050@mobile-max lrv-u-border-b-2\">\n<p>\t\tTrending Stories<\/p>\n<\/h2>\n<\/section>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-line-height-copy  lrv-a-font-body-l   \">\n\t<strong>Ron?<\/strong><br \/><strong>Blair:<\/strong> Yeah. It would be more like oblique stuff. It wouldn\u2019t start, \u201cI was born a poor child in Augusta, Georgia.\u201d It wouldn\u2019t be any of that stuff. It would just start somewhere along the way, and it would just be observations.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-line-height-copy  lrv-a-font-body-l   \">\n\tApparently, I just find myself thinking differently from almost everybody that I know. When I see politics, I take a different slant on it. I don\u2019t hear anybody reiterating the way I think on TV. I notice things, and I just seem to be different. So I would just present \u2026 If you want to see a different side of things, here it is.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<p><br \/>\n<br \/><a href=\"https:\/\/www.rollingstone.com\/music\/music-features\/tom-petty-heartbreakers-reunion-benmont-tench-ron-blair-1235651489\/\">Source link <\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>When the history of Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers is told, their third LP, 1979\u2019s Damn the Torpedoes, is often characterized as the breakthrough&#8230;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":5,"featured_media":76573,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[36],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-76572","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-pop","article","has-excerpt","has-avatar","has-author","has-date","has-comment-count","has-category-meta","has-read-more","thumbnail-"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/musicianvoice.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/76572","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/musicianvoice.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/musicianvoice.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/musicianvoice.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/5"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/musicianvoice.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=76572"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/musicianvoice.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/76572\/revisions"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/musicianvoice.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/76573"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/musicianvoice.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=76572"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/musicianvoice.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=76572"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/musicianvoice.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=76572"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}